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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: provelless on November 21, 2008, 09:09:40 PM

Zissis no plasma. Basically I took stock engines with stock ignition systems  and using gas to see how far the flywheel would spin. I did this to compare with your test.  It seems to me you"re getting more reaction out of plasma and water than I am with gas. The fact that your engine spun with plasma only is pretty impressive.

Greg, do you ever take a break? ;D

Hi provelless, I very much agree with you :) ... Zissis's has demonstrated the best Water Plasma Expansion ever demonstrated on this topic.

I truly hope Zissis continues with his testing and development as the World is watching.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

djzissis

Quote from: gotoluc on November 21, 2008, 10:34:47 PM
Hi provelless, I very much agree with you :) ... Zissis's has demonstrated the best Water Plasma Expansion ever demonstrated on this topic.

I truly hope Zissis continues with his testing and development as the World is watching.

Thanks for sharing

Luc


@ provelless

I thought that you were using plasma.  :D
Very useful tests though.

Thank you!

@ Luc

Luc.... you are very encourageful..!! Thanks my friend....!!

Damianos told me that it is very important in our case to use a resistor (like our 100W bulb) in parallel with the coil. This way, we eliminate any negative self-inductance of the coil. This is better for our whole circuit.
Thus with the ballast (coil) mounted on, we have more power available for more sparks per second (Hz)

This is all for now....

Zissis!!!!

cell1


Hi,
I made the changes suggested by Zissis. To eliminate negative self-inductance of the coil I suggest you to put in parallel with the ballast a diode inversed polarized.
Thanks to all.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gwlp34vaDs
The maximum frequency in video is 150Hz.

gotoluc

Hi cell1,

thank you for sharing your test results.

Great job ;)

Luc

gmeast

Quote from: whizwheel on November 21, 2008, 09:15:57 PM
Thanks Greg,

I was in the process of going back through the posts to find this diagram and got side tracked this morning.  Was glad when I got back to the computer to find it.

I came into this a little late and have been reading a lot and trying to remember where I saw things.  It didn't make it any easier when the pages jumped up to so many. 8-)

Question,

I am going to put this on a 1980 Chrysler Newport 5.2, do I need to build two systems, or will one do the job?  I read that someone is putting one on a 5.7 Chevy.   I am sorry that I can't remember the name.

Thanks again to everyone for working so diligently on this project.

Rog

Hi Rog,

Well, the guy that's putting it on a V-8 that I'm aware of is jstadwater (Mike).  He's the one to ask.  If you have been following all this stuff you'll recall that I posted a warning that I had fried my inverter(s) on the VexUs circuit.  Since I thought the stupid circuit up in the first place it was upsetting for this to happen.  I blew four inverters ... and to this day I don't know the nature of the failures.  Since the circuit itself has always been super stable, I decided to go with a generic oscillator circuit.  It' also has been posted several times here and on Energetic Forum (Water Spark Plug).  The rationale was to eliminate sensitive CMOS components ... most of today's stuff has that in them, and they always blow !  I have been successfully operating on mine for weeks now. 

Your question has to do with "capacity".  I have computed that my 4-cyl engine requires 24 Watts of support for 3500 RPM and a 3 uF CDI Capacitor.  So the 24 VA transformer, 115 VAC primary X 10 VAC secondary (2.4 Amp - series hook up) was an OK choice.  For a V-8 you would need a 115 VAC X 10 VAC secondary (4.8 Amp - series hook up) is my guess.  I use only two (of the possible four) transistors on my oscillator but you would likely need to use all four.

Assuming you have the proper oscillator support, the issue of the HV voltage multiplier becomes important.  That is to say it needs to be big enough to support the spark plug firing frequency.  Too small (not enough capacitor capacity) the voltage drops with RPM too quickly and you loose the plasma spark.  You can only see this happening with an o'scope.  It may look like a good plasma spark at RPM but it's not what it could be.

There are far more dynamics to this than I ever planned to get involved in but since it's necessary I'm glad I worked to figure it out.

WHEW ... So, if you build it right, you only need one (1).

Peace,

Greg