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Water for fuel - diesel

Started by nightlife, June 30, 2008, 01:48:44 AM

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pese

Quote from: Tinker on July 01, 2008, 04:59:46 PM
Pese is this it  :o

http://pesn.com/2007/11/07/9500457_BiosFuel_SolarChallenge/

Also this is aproxx equivalent to the test in germany.
gasoline als diesel can be mixed, up to 50% water.
I also have done this 1961 with my first car ford.
some exerience with "emulsions" and also "srayed" water
was working. perhaps i will start again now with ultrasonic
watervapor devices that i have in stock...

Also som german Inventors have hade an patent and offered that
1966 on IAA (Intern. Auto Expo Frankfurt/Germany)
No German Car Manufacturer will have this. 
ONY SAAB and an Japanese Company have take an license.

Saag gav produced over years an car that was made /as option) with an extra water-tank

Also i know an person that have test-driven an SAAB prototyp car 2999ccm
that drive with water with +50% more power (Consume 2liter water at 500km
aditionally to the gasoline) I have not asked for the consume of gasoline,i will try to become this information.

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Gustav Pese

Here you find the links (german)
to translate , i use www.translate.ru 
(i think , its the best free translation now.


reibstoff / FUEL


Pure Water Motor  VIDEO
(ansich "alter Hut" gab es vor dem Benzin-Motor !
wurde auf Mineral?lbasis DANN umkonstruiert, um
ein "fortlaufendes" Gesch?ft aus der Erfindung zu
machen ) "Sehr sinnvoll"  (Dies hierzu im WWW
eingetragenen Links , B?cher und CD hierzu ,
werden nicht mehr angeboten, resp. sind gel?scht !
G.Pese

Wasser + Treibstoff  DEUTSCH


http://www.presstext.de/cms/index/opm/1412.html benzin wasser

http://www.uni-koeln.de/pi/i/2004.102.htm benzin + wasser
= ergibt: mehr Energie

http://www.uni-protokolle.de/nachrichten/id/35893/ benzin wasser

http://www.innovations-report.de/html/bericht-30636.html benzin wasser


http://www.wtz.de/fuel-wat.htm


Versuch Benzin + 20 % Wasser.
Nissan Febr 2007.
Tankf?llung Benzin reicht 450km.
Mit 20 % Wasserzusatz wird die Reichweite  auf 700km erh?ht . D.h. fast doppelt da ja
Gesamtmischung nur 80% Benzin enth?lt

Video hierzu:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7711785211600823269
Hier ein Video (von mehreren)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WsKOdxL ? re=related

Beachtet auch die enormen Kalkabsonderungen auf der Wasseroberfl?che, das ist f?r eine normale Elektrolyse nicht normal und sieht aus wie beim Reaktor von Daniel Dingel.

Er produziert mit den 0,5 A ca. 8x soviel Gas wie nach Faraday erlaubt w?re, bei einer normalen Elektrolyse.

http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ? c&start=30

Hier die Bauanleitung:
http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1602

Das scheint mir der erfolgversprechendste Nachbau zu sein den es ?berhaupt gibt.



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nightlife

I started the wrecker today and let it run, the damn thing ran so good I was afraid to shut the fuel down and try to use water to start it. I would hate to mess the motor up but after doing some more research when I got home and I am now glad I didn't try it.

I was received a email from pese that said he was told that water exploded at 16 atu, which is about 250 psi, most diesel engines run at about 350 psi.

Diesels fire off the heat created by compressing the air. The fuel is injected after the compression is created. If water is added to the air before it is compressed, it will explode on the up stroke which could blow the engine. It would explode against the stroke instead of exploding with the stroke.

The water would have to be injected right after top dead center and it would have to be injected at over the psi created in the cylinder. this means that if the cylinder compression is at 350psi, the water would have to be pumped in at 351+ psi.

  As the piston starts moving away from TDC, the compression will decrease, if the water is not injected before the compression falls below 250, the water will not explode and it would be pushed out thru the exhaust.

Now this brings me to the thought of how they use water to cut metal. They use high pressure water, sometimes with a abrasive added. I am wondering if the water is exploding on contact from the compression created between the water flow and the solid object it is used to cut and I am also wondering how the pressure is created without it exploding before contact.

Another thought is how can air be compressed in a cylinder at over 250psi and not explode. We all know that water does accumulate in air tanks and therefore based on it supposed to explode at 250psi, the tanks would explode.

Something just doesn't add up here. Am I missing something?




Tinker

I know this isn't the answer but there is some talent here.

http://delphi.com/pdf/techpapers/2008-01-1190.pdf

This is just stuff

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1599668

This could help with the lubrication issue
http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2002/09totalfina.php

Pese I'm still sorting out the translator thing.

Be Well
Tinker



Tinker

Pese
I Got the German translated and now the ENGLISH LOOKS FUNNY!

Isn't technology Wonderful.....



Nightlife the Camaro guy said the piston needed to be past TDC when the ignitor fired that's kinda why I think the injector pump would be useful for timing and speed control.

That said, I agree that there is risk of damage to the pump and it should be weighed carefully. I'm still working on not knowing enough to know what I don't know.

Be Well
Tinker