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Hubbard coil

Started by EMdevices, July 01, 2008, 05:03:36 PM

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aleks

Quote from: khabe on July 19, 2008, 04:37:28 PMyou can wrap and wind your wires how you ever like - no gyroscopic effect!
The answer is simple - magnetostriction. You can cause any kind of vibratory effects with it, even those that can be called "gyroscopic" - you can squeeze the magnetostrictive material in cyclic manner around circumference and you'll create that gyroscopic effect. The center of the object won't move, of course, but you'll surely feel the ring "breathing".

khabe

Are you trying to speak about physics?  Magnetostriction is a property of ferromagnetic materials - but you are building using non ferrous materials ;-)
When magnetostriction then fractional change in length as the magnetization of the material increases from zero to the saturation value, yes, you can build sensors but not much more.

Im speaking about feelable gyroscopic effect - not about sensors.
Khabe


aleks

Quote from: khabe on July 19, 2008, 05:36:31 PM
Are you trying to speak about physics?  Magnetostriction is a property of ferromagnetic materials - but you are building using non ferrous materials ;-)
When magnetostriction then fractional change in length as the magnetization of the material increases from zero to the saturation value, yes, you can build sensors but not much more.

Im speaking about feelable gyroscopic effect - not about sensors.
Khabe
You are out of the topic it seems. Magnetostriction can change the size of certain materials up to 4% of their initial size. It's feelable.

khabe

Im hoped in  ?Steven Mark?s TPU devices? - wheres members do not want to use ferromagnetic materials and permanent magnets - both ineluctable when speaking about Magnetostriction.
OK - Hubbard coils - but anyway under  ?Steven Mark?s TPU devices?  where members bullheadedly steering away from ferromagnetic materials and permanent magnets.
Thats because Im asking. How most of members can get any gyroscopic effect when no ferrous and no magnets - just only enmeshed-jumbled wires.
When videos are authentic as well as published correspondence of some of members - then Gyroscopic effect is primary for me.
If I put myself to the shoes of SM - then cut-off any PTU - I know exact from what places to cut to not betray my sectrets ;-) What you hoped to see? Or hoped he (SM) stupid?
My English is poor but I hope you understand me - I do not deride - Im just trying to carry out my own vision and this vision based on the Gyroscopic effect, this is starting point of TPU at least for me.
Hereby my question:
Any known device in the world where handy felt gyroscopic effect with no flywheel? Working device, please!
Regards,
khabe

giantkiller

I speak these words in earnest kindess and open compassion:
In the videos when the TPUs are moved there is a slight effect. They are moved horizontally and it is claimed gyroscopy is present. They are all moved at the same speed. Why so careful? How many people in vids did this test and who? Grab one and swing it around!

In this arena anything is plausible. If you can ask questions and state valid processes or theories, you can build and prove to yourself. Everybody has that right. I don't know who else is building and I didn't want to play the Pied Piper here. If I see a similarity in what someone mentions, like EMDevices did here, in concert with what the League of Extraordinary Men of our past have shown then I am all over that. It is a form of copyiing, yes. But when you compare over 5 triilion debt ridden consumers on this planet since the early 1900s against a handful, and I do mean 5, that have shown extraordinary processes we don't have time for guessing games.

Dale Pond even finds this out in his experimenting with the Keely engine. Alot of theories went into the initial tests. But he plays with it and then 'BAM!'. The Water hammer effect creates powerful microwave emmissions. Nobody knew this from looking at pictures. Nobody, my friends.

Theory said the Titanic wouldn't sink. Application stated otherwise.

--giantkiller. The addiction of capitalistic swinehood is encircling the globe. Are you immune?