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Hubbard coil

Started by EMdevices, July 01, 2008, 05:03:36 PM

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tak22


see http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2255.0.html

I'm stalled with this project, but still very very interested. New enthusiasts are welcome!

tak

BEP

Cupric Oxide?

Kinda like the conductor in lamp cord used to be? The way almost all copper wire was made up until the 50/60s. The way copper surely was on the original Cook coils? That is annealed and not drawn again so they maintained flexibility. Current wire is annealed with the new process that does not include oxygen so the copper will not turn black. The old conductors would turn black easily.

If you want to try annealed copper heat it to a dull cherry red and let cool on its own. Don't quench it. If you heat it right and long enough the black stuff will appear.
It flakes off easily. No matter, the good stuff is under it. It is known in the PC board biz as 'Red Plague'. Also known as the first photocell. It is sensitive to more than light.

Any SM words about TPUs working better with rust or oxides formed or working better over time or better after it got hot the first time?

I'll see if these words mean anything. I had just finished annealing copper band for my next experiment when that great reading patent link was posted.

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Add a picture since kids camera is here - garage not workbench. No flames allowed in the house!


aleks

Quote from: gyulasun on July 05, 2008, 03:22:38 PMI am surprised to read in the above first patent that Hubbard (and later Hendershot too) used radium to enhance current in the wires...  Well then does this mean we are chasing an impossible task, for without radium we will never have extra output from the Hubbard coil setup???

Please read more thoroughly that same patent:
"Radioactive-decay energy can be eliminated as the main power source because about 10^8 times more radium than the entire world's supply would have been needed to equal Hubbard's reported electric energy output of 330 amperes and 124 volts."

So, it's plainly laid out that radioactivity is not a source of energy.

In my opinion this Hubbard coil - if it can be made to work - is one of the simplest OU devices I've seen so far. Information about it is scarce, but it seems that beside these 9+1 coils that device only had a voltage transformer of sorts. So, if you skip "power conditioning" aspect, you are left with 9+1 coils only, without electronics of any kind. Too good to be true.

aleks

Quote from: aleks on July 04, 2008, 05:35:17 PM
Also, where's the source of info there are bifilar coils installed?

A correction to my own doubt. Patent quotes Hubbard speaking about his generator: "It is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. About the entire group of cells is a secondary winding."

And about CW and CCW windings, these are different than I'm thinking myself:
"The only connectors visible on the drawing were between the outer windings of the eight electromagnet coils. Theses connectors show that the direction of the windings alternated between clockwise and counterclockwise on adjacent coils, so that the polarity of each electromagnet would have been opposite to that of its adjacent neighbors." Then again, it's a speculation of the patent Applicant.

pauldude000

@all

I am curious.....

1. Take the original photo, turn it on its side.
2. Instead of 6" long iron rods, make them 6" diameter copper rings, wound in the same manner.
3. Stack these one on top of the other in order.
4. Compare the resultant against SM's coil descriptions.

Am I nuts, or do they match exactly?

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.