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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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Butch

Quote from: BEP on October 29, 2008, 04:43:13 PM


"I can tell you now that moving the source from the compressed portion of the laminations to the gapped laminations and back to the compressed portion causes no variation in the magnetic flux."
BEP,
We would like to see our test results replicated. Can you show on video with a scope that you get no change of flux in the coil core and the voltage stays steady?
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

Cap-Z-ro


...or they are still trying to figure out how to put a meter on the devices they already have.

An the "research money" Greer wants is really to pay the posse of 'meter minds' he will contract to hook up a meter...so they can make a seamless transition from having a hand in one pocket over to the other.

Regards...


molux

Hello Sirs,

I try to understand this principe but i'm not natural english speaker and it's hard to understand all you say.

1/ The setup
Do you think this kind of simple setup can be a good firt approch ?
Does the LC resonant frequency be calculated be near the idéal rotation speed (in turn per second) ?

2/ Output évaluation
If i drive this setup with frequency generator (GBF) and choice a good capacitor for my coil i can easly évaluate the input power
But how to simple mesure the output ?

Sorry for my bad english
(Thanks for this interesting thread)

Molux


BEP

Quote from: Butch on October 29, 2008, 05:15:43 PM
BEP,
We would like to see our test results replicated. Can you show on video with a scope that you get no change of flux in the coil core and the voltage stays steady?
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

Like I said 'zero circuitry'. I have a coil around one section of the stator for pickup purposes only. With my scope on 100mv/Div it barely registers when turned quickly by hand. If it shows continued promise I'll likely start another thread as it is nothing like what you've presented. Sorry, I'm busy enough proving to myself I am not an idiot so I rarely 'replicate' another's work.

Design is nowhere near complete. I need to include positioning screws for adjustments of axial/radial postion and balance. So far it looks like I'll have to beg for CNC time at work.

I'm doing all design on AutoCad with good measurements so once I can present it as useful or a complete mistake the info will be good.

Thank goodness this idea is in no way related to my previous works so I'll have no problems posting info. It uses part of the concept you proposed but includes others I haven't seen public before. I hope to have a POC to post by next week but can make no promises, yet. Then you can all tell me it is something done before but I seriously doubt it.

BTW: FEMM is useless on this.

molux

Dear Sirs,

Do you think it's possible to evaluate the system with this kind of benchmark ?

We can mesure the electrique power input, and try different weigth to find the bigger the setup can push to up ?

Can you tell me if i completly misundurstand the concept ?

Thanks for read me

Molux

Edit: I  just find this great link to understand well the concept, great doc, thanks butch for open source :
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:LaFonte_Perpendicular_Magnetics_Motor