Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[Butch]

Thanks for that info. So the metal is probably type 300. Likely 316 stainless steel? I used 316 stainless steel fasteners in one project and found the metal to have an effect on the shape of the field but only while moving within the field.

Still, I'm puzzled why there is so much difference in attraction to the magnets when compressed or released. If the rod was ferromagnetic it would explain it. Perhaps the washers are easier to saturate while compressed? Your test results would be unwanted when dealing with the laminated rotor I described above. I want no differences between compressed and expanded and have none but none of the early tests I did were as inventive as yours.

BEP,
We are running more tests on this fixture, will let you know results. Also, this is another way to achieve overunity if configured correctly. We will try to explain in a video.
Butch

[MarkSnoswell]

I just scanned the thread and was surprised that no one has realized the effect described is a macroscopic analog of negative magnetostriction.
The same effect you see in a stack of washers happens at a molecular level in most feromagnetic materials -- it is called magnetistriction. Materials like iron and cobalt have positive magnetostriction coefficients-- which means they elongate along the direction of magnetic field and shrink tangentially. Materials like Nickel have a negative coefficient and shrink lengthwise but grow tangentially to the magnetic field.

In a solid material you can tune magnetoeleastic effect to achieve magnetoacoustic resonance -- something that would be extremely difficult in the devices you are making.

Dating right back to Hans Coler's devices there is evidence that magnetoacoustic resonance is a viable method for generating excess energy.

[molux]

Hy,

Molux,
I believe the rotary approach is the best way. Look at this video and tell me what you think.
Also, the best way to test this theory for true overunity is to use a scope to show that the supply voltage/current is constant when the rotor is moving and doing useful work.
Below is a link for the youtube rotary basic layout for testing the concept. It will need proximity switch added. The final product will need resonance element in design.
Feel free to write me if you have any questions.

Thanks a lot for information and help Butch

I just find your article on PESWiki, so interesting....
This setup, with coil correction (Horizontal vs vertical) and the length of magnet is a very good idéa for mesurment.

We can compute input and output with just voltmeter, ampermeter and frequency generator ...

Now i understand why someone speak about this lamp for generator

(I have this one)

Thanks a lot for all this interesting information Butch

Molux


Molux

[Koen1]

Is that coil in the animated pic wound correctly?
Doesn't look like it...

But it would be nice to see someone do a real test on such a setup,
not just repeating the basic idea...
Has anyone tested the combination of this "magnetic spring"/"fanner effect"
with such a fairly simple "shakable flashlight" inductor?

It may be that the combination causes increased losses which were
not obvious in testing the seperate "magnetic spring" mechanism...

A bit like the effects that many people get when they try to close the loop
by using their apparent OU output as input again; For example, the MEG
principle appears to work quite nicely as long as the input and output energy
flows are not allowed to interact, but when they close the loop the thing stops working.

I'm not saying that this is necesarily going to be so in this setup, but I am saying
that I think this may need some actual testing to avoid nasty surprises like some
inventors have had.

And you must admit that this setup is actually simple enough for people to build one,
so instead of remaining stuck in the theoretical discussion part of it, where's the
build attempts? There's none? That's odd...

[Butch]

Is that coil in the animated pic wound correctly?
Doesn't look like it...
And you must admit that this setup is actually simple enough for people to build one,
so instead of remaining stuck in the theoretical discussion part of it, where's the
build attempts? There's none? That's odd...

Koen,
The coil is wound Wrong. I told Sterling Allen that his animator drew it wrong and he said he would not change it. So it looks like it's stuck there forever drawn the wrong way. The wires should be wound horizonal in the illustration. It's very misleading the way it is now. It makes me look like I don't know what I'm doing. Maybe that was the purpose of it.
Butch