Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[wizkycho]

Hi Yucca and all !

...My simple animation revealed following

In a beggining of this topic I gave an advice that is not neccessery to follow in this setup (mentioning Francouer Interference Disk Gen).
It is not neccessery to have large space from first magnet pair to next but just a width of one fanner stack (means every other stack is overlapped with magnet pair). cause complete flux of one magnet pair will go directly through closest fanner stack closing on magnet. Two fanner stacks should be separated by an air gap 1mm wide and that is sufficient (and not causing sticky spots), to be sure flux wan't "touch" neighbour stacks - it will rather go through currently overlaping stuck cause it is never over saturation knee. Balancing is now automatic no need to pay additional attention on angles entering - exiting (1mm air gap will not cause drag back or cogg cause magnet flux can bend that much).
Fanner stacks must be quadratic but with slightly rounded corners. Otherwise, tricky balancing should be done.

Wiz

[wizkycho]

Hi AbbaRue,

If you pull the magnets apart then the energy taken to do the pulling can be got back because the magnets can then be allowed to go back together and that could be fed back into the system.

Imagine two springy plastic rulers stood on end and fixed to the tabletop using brackets. At the top of each ruler is a flat magnet, each magnet in attraction. Now imagine that you pull the mags apart and let go, the whole system will oscillate like a tuning fork. Only damped by air friction and eddy currents in the mags, the system will oscillate and come to rest following a normal decay curve.

Now if the effect is real then the rulers will decay at the same rate even if you load the washers as they seperate and fall back together (i.e. the magnets do not see the loading of the seperating steel) . In theory the energy obtained from the seperating steel could be fed back to mantain the rulers oscillations and it would self run.

edit:
Obviously rulers would not be ideal, too much air resistance, better to use 2 piano wire pairs instead.

Best, Yucca.

Although I can allmost see what you propose, and its briliant - that way We would be able to mount linear generator (magnet in a coil) and have supersimple infinite Energy source...but should keep up the oscilations.
Can You make some picture...

Wiz

[Yucca]

Are you using permanent magnets or electromagnets? 

I'm only using permanent mags at the moment and all my ideas on this thread are for permanent mags.

I do want to start doing this stuff with electromags and signal generator. I am waiting for some P-Channel FETs in the mail to start with that.

Yucca.

[Yucca]

Although I can allmost see what you propose, and its briliant - that way We would be able to mount linear generator (magnet in a coil) and have supersimple infinite Energy source...but should keep up the oscilations.
Can You make some picture...

Wiz

I will try and make an animated GIF tonight Wiz.

I think I have also now worked out the simple lever arrangement to feedback the seperation force and to keep the mags in oscillation.

Yucca.

[4Tesla]

Cool Yucca.. can't wait to see your animation!  I believe that it has to use permanent magnets as an electromagnet takes too much energy.

Jason