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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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dean_mcgowan

Butch I have eleventy million dollars that says this is just another anomaly where people cant quite see that by you moving the magnet into the field you are actually imparting enough energy to change the balance (potential) of the magnetic fields, no more .. no less.


For those interested enough to truly undeerstand, please read the following

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_potential

scotty1

HaHaHa...
The fact is...It is not one current...THEY ARE 2 CURRENTS.
The field around a conductor is a dual field and THEY ARE DIVERGING AWAY.
Now if you put some filings around then the currents will use the filings as a path to RE-CONVERGE and so the filings will be dipoles, but the dipole is made when the currents are running against each other.
It is not so much of a curl either....the currents are thrown out of the copper wire radially all around, just like our spiral galaxy....in a right hand twist...and from both directions in the wire.
The curl is a product of the field from the conductor diverging away and acting on the Earth's magnetic field, which is the next path of least resistance for the currents to follow.
Stand on the tropic of cancer and put copper wire in an E/W position...run pos current in E end and Neg current in W end of copper wire.
The copper wire now feels a force that would move it to the Equator of the Earth, and the Earth would be magnetized by the copper wire the same way it is now.
Now stand on the tropic of capricorn and put copper wire E/W..run pos current in E end and Neg current in W end of copper wire.
The wire now feels a force that will move it to the Equator, and the Earth would be magnetized the way it is now.
That is why a coil will always pull the core to its center.
To make currents with a single wire...the metal will have to be placed in such a way that the currents enter from the middle and run to the ends...then the metal will be a permanent magnet.
Take a hard steel wire 1" long...put in filings to see there is no magnet in it.
Put 18" long, 1/8" dia copper wire in E/W position, pos in E end,,neg in W end of wire.
Put hard steel wire vertically on top of the copper wire, right in the middle of the copper wire, touching it.
Hold tight...touch car battery for a moment...
Remove hard steel wire and dip in filings, then you will see there is still mo magnet in the needle.
Now move lower end of needle just below the copper wire on the N side.
Hold tight...touch battery for a moment...now put the lower end of that needle in filings and you will see the filings stick to the needle....
Hang that lower end now just above the middle of the copper wire.
Touch battery for a moment and the needle will swing North.
During the time you held the needle vertically on top of the copper wire...the currents were not able to use it as a path to run in...the currents only run from end to middle and accross and so the needle was not magnetized.
During the time the needle's lower end was below the copper wire on the N side, the currents diverging from the wire were able to use the needle as a path, and so the needle was magnetized, and it will be permanent.
When the currents are started in an orbit..they will never stop until the orbit is broken.

"I believe that if some enterprising man would analyze the magnet metal which comes straight from the earth he would find that the metal is not built up by protons and electrons, but by north and south pole individual magnets."......Ed. Leedskalnin. 1946

They are the cosmic force.





Elnorel

To the INVENTORS.

Because of your bickering on who has done/got what first, and patenting fiasco, we (the rest of the world) are still running things on oil/coal and line governments big fat wallets.

Get your grip together and let free energy into the world. Screw patent and claims and whatnot.
If you intend on hoarding the knowledge and wait on the grace of your wonderfull government to grant you patents, then we are never seeing free energy, because too much money is tied up into energy business. No way in hell they will grant you a patent you can make any money off. Youre in their playground now and youre after a piece of their pie.


Its gonna play out like this:
• You develop a device
• You file for a patent
• You go on youtube and demonstrate your device
• You get a bit greedy and you try get some investors in to get the "bussiness" rolling
• Time passes, world yaawns (1 - 8 years)
• Patent office writes back and informs you either that such a device allready exists under a different name and you would have to reformat your claim or some such, causing another delay.
• You get some investors or government assasinates you and we forget all about that wonderfull device you "sommebody" (yes we cant even recall your name anymore) was working on.
• We still run appliances and homes on oil.

The way it should play out to get a world in a better shape:
• You develop a device
• You proove it works to the people
• You make contengency plans if something was to happen to you or the device
• You publish papers online with diagrams for evey Joe out there soo he can build it on his own

• Government is screwed with this new FACT and has to addapt
• There is either a revolution, or mankind opens up a new chapter in human history on how we beat powerty, war,...
• And yes, you will be remembered as a man who freed people from this slavery to energy moguls.
• And yes were damn sure to make you ritch. Just immagine, a man that saved Earth opening up a donation page.  You would get millions upon millions of donations. If indeed economy would exist as such that is. But still, you wont go hungry or anyone else for that matter ever again.


Its either that or you keep worrying about your precious device and your BILLs and hoping you will get a patent granted, you will get investors and a fat big wallet.

I appologize for vocabulary quirks, as I am not a natural English writer.  ::)

BEP

Oh, if it was only that simple and true......

There are other scenarios played.

For example: Would you be so willing to publicly give such information if it meant innocent members of your family suffering in a multitude of ways just because you decided to become a humanitarian?

-or-

Broadcast the information knowing that you will be forced to drive to another country for life giving medications for a family member just because you loose your job, health care, retirement income and all the benefits of past labors. Why? To be a humanitarian?

I suppose I could be a martyr for such a cause but you can stuff it if you think I will put innocent family members through it so I can be 'the good guy un-remembered' - again.

Elnorel

Quote from: BEP on November 29, 2008, 12:42:49 PM
Oh, if it was only that simple and true......

There are other scenarios played.

For example: Would you be so willing to publicly give such information if it meant innocent members of your family suffering in a multitude of ways just because you decided to become a humanitarian?

-or-

Broadcast the information knowing that you will be forced to drive to another country for life giving medications for a family member just because you loose your job, health care, retirement income and all the benefits of past labors. Why? To be a humanitarian?

I suppose I could be a martyr for such a cause but you can stuff it if you think I will put innocent family members through it so I can be 'the good guy un-remembered' - again.

Once again.

Yes i would wholehartedly decided to let the information loose.

Once the genie is out of the bottle,.. you know the rest. It would be kinda pointless for the government threats then right?
Besides, you gave that statement not thinking first. If the inventor is true of heart and is trying to get this out, dont you think hes allready in their sights?  If the inventor knows that, then why is he wasting his time on getting this thing out when he knows his family is threattened and he will never be permitted to get this thing out?

OK said that,... he can give the technology to someone else anonimously, and he gets it out as long as it gets out.

THEY (by this I mean the oposition, corporations and governments, oil cartels..) are genuinely screwed if this gets into public domain.
Killing one lone inventor and his whole family and close distant relatives is not gonna help them. Once the genie is out of the bottle, the revolution can not be stopped.

As they are, but a few in control of many. Once you loose that control youre as good as dead. Their time is comming.

The inventor I am reffering to is SM whos invention is known to you allready. Allso I see a nice movement in free energy bussiness in Australia. This is comming out and no idle threats are gonna make any difference. They better buckle their bellts, write their wills, get their affairs in order, ...

Patent office is nothing more than a filtering system on what people should and should not know.
Its a body for control. Who else likes to control their subjects? (fill the blanks yourself).

I trully admire SM if his invention or rather adaption works. We all know 95% of todays free energy comes from none other but Nikola Tesla work. But I dont mind that. Humanity has been put on hold for 100 years, its time these things come out.
They made enough fortune through controlling the technology to suit their vision of the world.