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S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!

Started by xbox hacker, July 08, 2008, 03:20:41 PM

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resonanceman

The  thing I don't like about  the Sr1 coil  is that it needs that light   connected to it

That light   or a big  resistor seems like a really big waste to me .

I like to try to  change   problems into assets .

Has anyone  thought  of    driving  a  small  HHO   generator   in place  of  the  light bulbs?

Even a small amount  of HHO  should    expand  the  effect of the  plasma ..........even if there is not  enough  for it to flash  over  through the  entire  cylinder .


gary



Park34

Hi,

Ok a few gripes here,

after building a replica of teh s1r coil i am bummed out. I figured it wouldnt work. I have tester that simulates cylinder pressure adn everything :( the only thing that was interesting is that with it hooked up the way he said the spark is less intense then when its not. what i found from that is that the electricty is going with the fastest way to ground through the secondary and third coild. I insulated the nail and same conditions. in fact if u hold the 12 volt wire one in each hand and ignite the cil you get shocked as if you were holding the spark plug wire. rather interesting how that occurs when the wires arent connected.

1) i watched the first video many times,

first off there are only threee wires i can see coming out of the mystery box. after replicating and seeing his dissasembly video where did the 4th go.

in the first video there is a bare wire bouncing off the brick

and finally i thing the inverter is hooked up, otherwise why have it in both videos.

ok may gripe later :)


Park34

A couple questions:




So is this how this is working???

the 240v is rectified to 240 dc which is sent through the windings, from the winding it is "magneticall" fed to the HV side of things. the current is then stored in the capacitors, upon the firing of the plug in the car the stored energy is released tot eh plug fireing?? and when is the plug on the 240v side fired, I am sorry i am just confused and tired of replicating things that dont work. so i am determined to get the results cap70 is getting

thanks again

Shanti

LOL.

I think you really didn't get the right turn, how this circuit works... LOL

1.) The LV Cap 330uF  gets charged by the rectified 230VAC. This charges the cap to 320VDC (sqrt(2)*230V).
     Nothing else happens until now.
2.) The pickup coil you se on the right, "sees" when the correct timing point is there and switches the transistor or FET to let current flow through the primary of the ignition coil.
3.) After some time, the pickup coil will not deliver anymore enough voltage, and so the transistor or FET will stop letting the current flow through the primary.
     As the primary coil wants to hold the current flowing through the coil (laymen's term), it will induce a big inductive kickback voltage (several 100 Volts) .
    Now there will be a transfomer action between the secondary and the primary of the ignition coil, and so the secondary will develop a voltage of several ten's of kilovolts.
    This will now charge the 3 small caps (and yes, they are not all needed. You could just take one HV capacitor instead).
    As soon as the capacitors are charged to a voltage high enough, so that the (right) spark gap will fire, we have a resonant HV HF LC-circuit. Now the spark gap , as soon as fired behaves almost like a short circuit. So the capacitors charged to a high voltage are now able to discharge through the primary of the toroid coil.
   Now we will have another transformer action: From the primary of the toroid to the secondary of the toroid. This will yield a HV at the secondary side of the toroid coil.
  This HV is big enough, so that the (left) Spark gap of the spark plug will arc over. And as before: As soon as we now have an arc over the gap, it will behave as almost a short circuit (very low resistance. Actually it rather behaves a bit diode like, but I'm getting offtopic). So now the LV charged 330uF capacitor is also able to discharge itself through the gap. So you will get the strong plasma from the LV discharge, but the HV is needed to "ignite" the gap, so that the LV is able to discharge.

Hope it's clear now... 

allcanadian

@forest
QuoteMy personal thoughts : try to find an answer why Tesla worked so hard to get high frequency currents and why finally he used only alternating form of this high frequnecy currents to develop system of practical lighting ?
I think I found the answer. What about you ?

From some of your previous posts I believe you know more than you are telling us ;D I find my answers from the source---Tesla's work and others.

@All
I have built gotoluc's circuit and can produce extreme dicharges(very loud) at up to 3/8" gap, but there is a problem I knew of before I built the circuit. The weak point is the relay contacts, they must handle large disruptive current flows which erodes and sometimes welds together the contacts. A better way would be to remove the relay from the circuit and utilize the high voltage side to control the low voltage high current flow, meaning no moving parts or diodes or spark gaps.
To be honest, if you asked me how this S1R circuit works two years ago I would tell you it cannot work because the high voltage from the ignition coil has no power in itself. I can discharge it into a coil or resistive lighting filament and nothing happens---the amperage is to low. And then I read a statement from another member that changed my perspective of how things work in nature, "Nature works indirectly". While one quality of field may appear to have no power in and of itself, it can apply force to a complementary field, this field could constitute a field in opposition to the original field in which force is applied.
If we can concieve that we live in a world of opposites, that every thing must have by nature an opposite, then we are missing something which must be a fundamental force in nature. That is the "Diamagnetic Field" which must oppose by nature the only field we know of--- the magnetic field. Diamagnetism is not a magnetic field of opposite polarity, that is SN<----->NS, it is a field which expells all magnetism irregardless of polarity----an impolar field only in appearance as it must have opposition within itself.
Based on experiments I have done towards understanding the diamagnetic field, I believe from what I have seen that S1R's circuit is utilizing this effect.
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