new 50 plate emd graphite cell very expensive!

[clarence1984]

O.k well how does copper grounded to earth build static?  Please I have to know how a copper or steel line (the only thing capable of compressing this hho to about 300 psi would build static when it's grounded?  CNG will exploded from static too it only a hair bit less volatile.  Please people I have already built this system it works well there are hundreds of inventors who do this everyday.  People here need to come to my forum for the math and safety behind this.  People that say don't compress are either selling real time hho cells or they are morons.  I just recently created a great video that i'm posting today of a paintball carbon fiber tank rupturing at 1200 psi of hho and  never exploded just ripped a whole in the side.  I tried to get hho to explode under pressure and i just can't get it to over 1000 degrees Fahrenheit the temperature required for self detonation. 

[Michelinho]

Hi al,

If you want to make special shape graphite electrodes, use natural graphite flakes.

I have a 6 oz jar that we use to make some. The one I have comes from BC and is 97% pure. The jar was passed on to me by my father who bought them in the 50's.

If you buy some, make sure you collect the magnetic ones. Wrap a magnet with a glassy finish paper and move it around your flakes while lightly shaking the surface your graphite flakes are on. These are special and rare.

Work safely all of the time.

Take care,

Michel

[Yucca]

O.k well how does copper grounded to earth build static?  Please I have to know how a copper or steel line (the only thing capable of compressing this hho to about 300 psi would build static when it's grounded?

I agree that if your grounding system stays intact and if there is no physical trauma to your tank and fittings then you can reduce the likelyhood of ignition to almost zero, however should your grounding system fail or should your tank/fittings experience trauma then it could be a serious explosion, not just a purdy orange fireball boom like a LPG or CNG tank going up but a VERY SHARP detonation, LOTS of energy released in a VERY short time. You have to remember that a flame front CAN propogate through HHO faster than its outflow speed, it cannot propogate through LPG or CNG at any speed.

CNG will exploded from static too it only a hair bit less volatile.

Pure CNG or LPG can not be detonated from a spark; If you stood in a big bag full of any hydrocarbon gas (no air) and lit a match, nothing would happen except the match head would fizzle a little due to its own oxidiser, the matchstick wouldn't even burn. Try the same in HHO... CRACK!

People here need to come to my forum for the math and safety behind this.

I went to your forum, the math was volumetric and flowrate calculations, how does this prove the safety? It is as unsafe to store compressed HHO as it is to store mixed Oxy/Acetylene, the small chance of detonation just isn't worth the risk.

P.S.
I'm just trying to help your good self  and other from obliterating themselves , keep up the good work.

[eddiefreddie]

I agree with carbon plates but not salt for electrolyte.
Why don't you use lye NaOH ?
Also I read that stainless plates cells can make hexavalent cromium Cr6, very toxic.
I am very interested in your home heating and cooking ideas.
You might be right about overunity , free energy is everywhere we just need devices to convert it to a usable form.
Like a heat pump. 
and thanks for posting here.

[clarence1984]

alright my apologies i have not published the combustion speed of hho or any other related data.  But please do not post don't compress unless you have facts to backup your false information.  There is a percentage of oxygen in a cng tank.  It's inevitable.  Light a match inside the tank and the 1 to 2 percent of air that get's mixed in will explode with an extremely clear and high output explosion.  BP's research and development proved the natural gas data years ago.  Yes hho is very volatile.  But have been using it for years now compressed up to 500 psi into cylinders without any trouble.  We use simple flash arrestors on everything though.  Containers are grounded we simply use propane tanks, fittings, grounding methods, and cng pumps to do everything.  This isn't rocket science.  If you can't afford or doubt yourself at all do not compress this gas.  Let a professional do it.  I would rather you didn't compress this into a plastic tank wearing a nylon jump suit.  I have some explosion data i'll be posting next week.  We have had some fun blowing up small paintball containers and using high speed camera's to determine speed and alot more data
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