Need your help!! Ultra-Efficient water hydrolysis

[Magnethos]

Hi everyone, I have seen a video on youtube that shows a possible new way to obtain HHO gas. The system seems to be ultra efficient and extremely quick.

The video shows how you can put some drops of water inside in a device similar to a Gauss Gun and get all the HHO in less than a second.


I think that when you put some drops of water inside the device and a high frequency discharge is applied all the water molecules brokes in less than a second instead of the classical electrolysis systems than you need to apply constant energy to release slowly the HHO gas.

This is a quick reaction, so the gas is obtained in less than a second. The man says that is water vapor but I?m sure that is a HHO gas.

[Magnethos]

The Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O27hq1NC_U

[TinselKoala]

Hello, Magnethos. I am new here, but not new to this subject. Peter Graneau (the video misspells his name) is well known in the alternative energy field. He has been around for many years.
Unfortunately, he is also wrong.
His momentum-transfer model, by which he calculates excess energy from his water-arc explosions, is wrong. A better model, incorporating an analysis of shock waves in water, shows that his explosions are not in fact overunity.
The big plume of "fast fog" (as Graneau calls it) that Richard Hull shows, and that you reproduce here, is not gas at all, it is small water droplets, and the shape of the plume may indicate that the jet is supersonic, although Hull did not, as far as I know, actually measure the velocity.
But I have.
I have repeated dozens of Graneau's experiments, discharging cap banks from 0.3 to 3.0 microFarads, charged to 12-20 kV, producing peak currents in the several kiloAmp range, at ringdown frequencies from 10 to 20 kHz (depending on the series inductance). I have launched projectiles, measured velocities, driven turbines of various kinds, even underwater jetboats powered by Graneau-explosions. I have trapped the whatever-it-is coming out, weighed it, and it is water. I have had other scientists do laser Doppler spectroscopy on the emissions from the Graneau "guns". The droplets are not as small as Graneau claims, they are not invisible (at least the ones we can see aren't!) and they do not interpenetrate water without disturbing it as Graneau claims. I have done high-speed Schlieren video photography of the shock waves produced in Graneau water explosions, and the shock phenomena are very evident. Data from these experiments went into the more accurate shockwave analysis of Graneau's systems and have shown that his energy balance calculations based on momentum are in error, and employ circular reasoning and other logical flaws.
In fact none of the claims of Peter Graneau have been confirmed by careful experiment and rigorous mathematical analysis.Many have been positively disconfirmed. Some of Graneau's co-authors on published papers in the peer-reviewed scientific literature have repudiated the papers and have withdrawn their names from papers in publication.
I have met and talked to Peter Graneau several times.

I assure you, he is incorrect in his claims.
But it is water, not gas, coming out of his accelerators.

[Magnethos]

Wow, very helpfull information.
The only thing that I want to know if the cloud was water or hho gas. You say to me that is water 
I though that it was hho because the cloud was very big if you compare with the quantity of water that the man put inside.

Thank you very much for the info. Your information is very very helpfull.
Magnethos

So.. the answer to this is that the cloud is water and not HHO gas...
So, there is nothing to do.

[LarryC]

Hello, Magnethos. I am new here, but not new to this subject. Peter Graneau (the video misspells his name) is well known in the alternative energy field. He has been around for many years.
Unfortunately, he is also wrong.
His momentum-transfer model, by which he calculates excess energy from his water-arc explosions, is wrong. A better model, incorporating an analysis of shock waves in water, shows that his explosions are not in fact overunity.
The big plume of "fast fog" (as Graneau calls it) that Richard Hull shows, and that you reproduce here, is not gas at all, it is small water droplets, and the shape of the plume may indicate that the jet is supersonic, although Hull did not, as far as I know, actually measure the velocity.
But I have.
I have repeated dozens of Graneau's experiments, discharging cap banks from 0.3 to 3.0 microFarads, charged to 12-20 kV, producing peak currents in the several kiloAmp range, at ringdown frequencies from 10 to 20 kHz (depending on the series inductance). I have launched projectiles, measured velocities, driven turbines of various kinds, even underwater jetboats powered by Graneau-explosions. I have trapped the whatever-it-is coming out, weighed it, and it is water. I have had other scientists do laser Doppler spectroscopy on the emissions from the Graneau "guns". The droplets are not as small as Graneau claims, they are not invisible (at least the ones we can see aren't!) and they do not interpenetrate water without disturbing it as Graneau claims. I have done high-speed Schlieren video photography of the shock waves produced in Graneau water explosions, and the shock phenomena are very evident. Data from these experiments went into the more accurate shockwave analysis of Graneau's systems and have shown that his energy balance calculations based on momentum are in error, and employ circular reasoning and other logical flaws.
In fact none of the claims of Peter Graneau have been confirmed by careful experiment and rigorous mathematical analysis.Many have been positively disconfirmed. Some of Graneau's co-authors on published papers in the peer-reviewed scientific literature have repudiated the papers and have withdrawn their names from papers in publication.
I have met and talked to Peter Graneau several times.

I assure you, he is incorrect in his claims.
But it is water, not gas, coming out of his accelerators.

What is really amazing is how much you were prepared to readily deflect Graneau video
Also, how is it, that an obvious foremost research scientist as yourself would be on an overunity site 

Regards, Larry