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Overunity Machines Forum



Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

Started by mondrasek, July 11, 2008, 04:55:49 PM

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mondrasek

The latch arms are not flexible.  They are pivoting around an axel.  Only the top arm will enter the tube.  It is positioned this way due to gravity.  When the mass switch is inverted gravity causes the other latch to enter the tube.  It works great on my simple builds, though I assume there are better engineering solutions for a full scale power turbine replacement (or home gernerator unit).

Centrifical force is not a problem because this is a low speed device.  Very much like a large wind tubine spins slowly. 

If you need to drive a high RPM devie like an AC generator you would attach the output shaft to a planetory or other gear set to spin up the RPMs just like in a big wind generator. 

I dont see the main gravity motor wheels spinning more than 33 RPM.

M.

therealrasta

Quote from: mondrasek on July 11, 2008, 10:17:31 PM

Centrifical force is not a problem because this is a low speed device.  Very much like a large wind tubine spins slowly. 

If you need to drive a high RPM devie like an AC generator you would attach the output shaft to a planetory or other gear set to spin up the RPMs just like in a big wind generator. 

I dont see the main gravity motor wheels spinning more than 33 RPM.

M.

Oh definitely.. I concur and understand fully.

shakman

Quote from: mondrasek on July 11, 2008, 09:52:07 PM
Shakmen,
Great illustration but one big problem:  There can be NO PULLING MAGNETS!  Magnets have magnitudes of power more force than gravity.  Gravity will never overcome the attractive force of a magnet that has attratively captured it's target.  This is the flaw of A. Quinn's and many other designs.

Please remove the attracting magnets.

M.

Hey mate, glad you're still kicking. I was worried your next post would be from hospital after your last few posts over on Archer's thread.

I am aware of said issues. Did you notice however that I turned them on an angle to reduce their affect? Wouldn't this combat this problem? I'm not claiming to know the answer to that, I'm just asking. I would have thought this would do the trick....

To answer my own question - you are right if it is running at low speed. I didn't think about the wind-up speed when the wheel is moving slowly. But if the wheel can be wound up to speed first or the magnets added in once the motor is turning full speed I imagine this would be okay...? This could help combat the problems with centrifugal forces that Rasta pointed out. Then you might be able to have a high speed motor  ;D I guess it will all come down to trial and error. I was expecting a delivery of some magnets yesterday but they never turned up  :( But I should be able to do some testing next week.

As for the naysayers.. don't worry they'll be here. They remind me of one of my favorite movie quotes (paraphrased slightly) "If you (start to) build it, they will come".  :-\

Anyway, it's the weekend here and I've spent far too much time on the PC already. PM me if you want me to send you an edited version - just list the changes you want to make (i.e. remove the pulling mags).

shakman

mondrasek

Every hour lost is another hour that a child dies of disentary or some other disease because they did not have clean water.

Not trying to put anyone down.

We need to focus on this.

This is important.

Do you know anyone at a university or institution with the tools to begin modeling and making this happen?  If not, do you know anyone who does?  Are they asleep right now?


Wake them up.

Thanks again for getting on board.

M.

purepower

Quote from: mondrasek on July 11, 2008, 09:52:07 PM
Shakmen,

Great illustration but one big problem:  There can be NO PULLING MAGNETS!  Magnets have magnitudes of power more force than gravity.  Gravity will never overcome the attractive force of a magnet that has attratively captured it's target.  This is the flaw of A. Quinn's and many other designs.

Please remove the attracting magnets.

And thank you for your assistance.

Australia is one of the places on my wife and mine's places to visit.  Hope to meet some day.

M.

Hey M!

Finally another engineer! Someone I can talk detailed concepts with and not have to cover the basics around every corner. Sorry I have not had the time to drop by. Been a lil busy elsewhere.

Anyways, I'd like to introduce myself. I am PurePower, and I will likely be your toughest critic. However, my criticisms are never meant to discourage, only point out errors so they may be addressed.

I felt it necessary to make this known from the start. AQ does not understand the concept of "constructive criticism" and continually let's emotion deter the discussion. If we can get past that, I think I may be helpful.

Unfortunatly, I am unable to view the files at this time. However, reading off other peoples posts, I think your problem (if any) will be the magnets. AB hammer gave a pretty good explanation. I have a post on AQs wheel that I will try to find later you may find valueable. I dont want to say too much on the issue as I have not read your personal description yet.

As far as trying to find a potential builder, I would ask "batman," "Newtonian god," or "clanzer." All three have very good shops and would probably help (especially clanz).

-PurePower

PS you might want to have a little "no mudslinging" policy so this doesnt turn into AQs thread. I see you are already catching grief for being greedy. My guess is they want to see you fail because you are educated and dont claim things they cant/dont understand are wrong. You might get the attention you are looking for if you rant about the powers that be and call everyone a moron...