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Overunity Machines Forum



Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

Started by mondrasek, July 11, 2008, 04:55:49 PM

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TinselKoala

Nice work CLaNZeR, I knew you would be the man to do it. Just one thing, though. If you fix the sliding magnet in position, any position but preferably the "firing "position, and compare the wheel's motion with a "calibrated push", does it swing more, or less, than it does with the magnet free to slide like in your video?
Because the energy to move the magnet must come from somewhere, and I think it comes from the rotation of the wheel. SO it is a loss mechanism, the only ( potential) gain mechanism in this design is the weight shift.

CLaNZeR

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 12, 2008, 12:12:27 PM
Just one thing, though. If you fix the sliding magnet in position, any position but preferably the "firing "position, and compare the wheel's motion with a "calibrated push", does it swing more, or less, than it does with the magnet free to slide like in your video?
Because the energy to move the magnet must come from somewhere, and I think it comes from the rotation of the wheel. SO it is a loss mechanism, the only ( potential) gain mechanism in this design is the weight shift.

Yep agree with you here and the only way to do that is to fine tune the Stator magnets so the wall is not too strong, yet gets the magnets to a good enough height that they will in-balance the wheel. Then hope that the momentum of the un-balanced wheel will have enough get through the wall.

As usual I try not to over analyse things or I would never build anything  ;D ;D ;D

We will see if she rocks or not as we go along.

Here is video3 showing two points firing at the same time. At the moment the wall is too strong and I need to reduce the strength of the stator stacks. One thing you will notice though that the faster you push through the higher the magnets will flick, so maybe a small force is needed on the stators and go for a higher RPM to do the flick as such.

Need to try get these latches done now.

Video3 download link below:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/MGW/CLaNZeRMGW3.wmv

Cheers

Sean.
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dudeman750

Clanzer, cant you make the latch the same as mondresek's design? just slot the wood behind the travel path and pin the latch from behind. You will need some stop pins on either side of the latch, but if you slot it you could then adjust it up and down as needed. Also, are you planning on making a fully working model? Just curious and thanks for taking an interest in this project as I have.

dudeman750

If the "wall" shows to be too much of a problem, would you consider firing the magnets with some sort of electromagnet/ microswitch setup? This would bring in external power source for testing but later could be generated by the wheel itself.

mondrasek

Nice to see you in here dudeman750,  (He's been my best friend for 20 years or so.  Initially thought I was crazy when I told him I had solved the world's energy crisis)

Everyone understand that the "wall" force will not increase even if we double or triple the diameter of the set up so we can hang more weight on it? 

She'll run eventually if not on this diameter.

Dudeman750 just wants to skip ahead to the electromagnets that eliminate the wall altogether.