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Overunity Machines Forum



Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

Started by mondrasek, July 11, 2008, 04:55:49 PM

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dudeman750

@therealrasta

thought it would be fun for a show anyway. Adam gets so carried away sometimes with builds it would be fun to see Adam and Jamie do a "build off" with each of their own designs.

Yes, I cant wait to see Clanzers big wheel and TK's finished wheel.

Omega_0

Quote from: Harvey on July 19, 2008, 05:43:56 AM
I see there are some serious attempts to make this work.

There are 3 points I see that need addressed.

1. The momentum of the mass must be sufficient to shear the fields of both exterior stators.
2. The speed of the wheel must be tuned to prevent centrifugal collapse of the interior magnet sets.
3. A diametrically magnetized interior stator magnet is key.

Good thinking Harvey. Simplicity and pure beauty !
As I see it, removing the stators should help, it will remove two sticky points while still keeping the wheel unbalanced.
Lubricating the inner sides of the tubes with a light oil should also help. The magnets can slide freely.

A more realistic mod is attached below, taking gravity's action on magnets into consideration. Magnets have weight so they will try to balance themselves between the two forces.
Why this would work ? I don't see any balanced state here. Balance for gravity will unbalance the magnetic state and vice versa.
Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

(I feel turning the center magnet anticlockwise by 45 deg should unbalance it even more ..........)
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

AB Hammer

Omega_0

I see CF problems if you can get it to spin, and 1 big wall to overcome to do that. This has been tried before many times from back in the 70s.

But still thanks to itsblockdog and allot of people here, I have had to play with magnets again, and I haven't even finished my other builds. But after the 10th of Aug. I will have a week to finish all my projects, but until then I have allot of armour to get out to my vendors for the big event in Pennsylvania.

Have a great time
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

Harvey

@ Mondrasek,

You wrote "...Okay all.  I've finally figured out (in terms that I can understand) why this will not work. ..."

And then summarized that there was insufficient room even with different diameter wheels.

Just a few alternatives to that barrier:

1. Dual sided wheel for increased mass in the same spoke width
2. Rectangular magnets that protrude into Z axis for increased mass within the same spoke width
3. Secondary shorter spokes operating from the midpoint to the outer rim between full length spokes
4.  Mechanical Cam Follower for additional mass transfer.

Food4Thot

Cheers,

Harvey

AB Hammer

OK all

I am going to tell you what you need to do get past the wall block. You are going to have to learn how to flutter the magnet. And I hope to be able to show my flutter magnet wheel soon. but until then, you guys will have to figure it out yourselves. I still have to finish it but that won't be for a couple of weeks due to my living work, but the test unit fluttered 4 magnets past the wall with no slowdown, and I do believe they sped up faster than hoped.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan