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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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Davetech

Opps... oh well.  As RR2 would say "Now I know another way not to measure the temperature of a submerged electrode!"

Thanks Peter.

Perhaps one of those indoor/outdoor thermometers with the external wired sensor? The sensor could have a glob of silicone heat sink grease between it and the electrode and then a piece of heat shrink tubing shrunk around it?


ResinRat2

LOL, thanks for trying anyway DaveTech,

It's really Tacmatricx (Chris) who has given a new direction to follow right now. I set up a cell based off his research. It has the three electrodes with variable resistors between the zinc regeneration electrodes and the hydrogen producing electrodes. If this research cell works out it could signal an important finding.

Below are a few pics.

My regeneration voltage is set at 0.95 volts right now, and the voltage flowing between the zinc and hydrogen producing tungsten/carbide electrode is lowered to 0.310Volts through the variable resistor. Hopefully this will prevent zinc from plating on the tungsten carbide electrode.

I have my fingers crossed. I hope this works.



Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Just an update:

The reactor has been running about two days now, at 0.95 V regeneration and about 0.280 V between the zinc and hydrogen producing electrodes. I noticed a zinc plating was starting to form on the tungsten/carbide electrode and it almost looked like tungsten was plating on the zinc electrode. This tells me that the voltage is too high for regeneration, so I disconnected the connections, shook off the zinc electrode to get the tungsten "threads" off, and let the hydrogen producing electrode and zinc electrode run connected together for about an hour. This allowed all the platings to be removed, then I set the connections back together and dropped the regeneration voltage to 0.9 V.

The hydrogen gas is barely coming off now, and this is making me think that this may not work as well as I thought. The resistor between the zinc and hydrogen producing electrodes is really slowing the hydrogen production down. I don't want to bump up the regeneration voltage because of the plating on the zinc. I don't want to let the gas hydrogen gas come off faster either because of my concern that zinc will plate on the tungsten carbide electrode.

I was wondering how your experiments are going Chris. Are you seeing similar results to mine? Just curious.

I am going to try a few other ideas on this too.

Thanks for your interest.
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I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Hi Everyone,

Dr.Griffin sent me this picture of a micro-reactor he built. If you look closely at the picture you can see the gas pouring off the electrode. He just wanted to show some of his progress.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Hi Chris,

Just an update on my research.

At this point in time I am trying a regeneration - then non-regeneration setup. I am using your setup with one zinc electrode but I removed the resistor between the hydrogen producing electrode and the zinc electrode. The gas is coming off at a good rate now, and I am regenerating the zinc on and off every eight hours. This way only a thin layer is being regenerated and then worked off. It also seems to be preventing the plating from the zinc onto the T/C electrode.

I have settled on 0.9 volts for regeration. I am going to let this configuration proceed and record any observations I see.

Also, someone mentioned to me that a configuration could be designed to use the pressure that is produced from the hydrogen gas to operate a small pressure-switch to do any electrode connection switching or turning the regeneration on and off. This is certainly free energy because the gas can be used to produce electricity after it is recovered from the switching. It could even be used on the previous four-electrode design for switching if we need to go back to it.

This system is looking more and more favorable for achieving overunity.

Thanks for your interest.

Dave (RR2)
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