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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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Tacmatricx

Hey Guys,

I gave the pulsed voltage idea a try and I'm getting burnt tungsten (regeneration electrode showing zinc/zincate plating), indicating too much current and shedding electrode (zinc electrode erodes in sheets sometimes shorting the cell), indicating too little current at the same time in the following configurations at 0.950V

On   Off (in minutes)
1     1
2     1
1     2
1     3
1     5

Gonna try a few other things to counteract this, will let you know if I have any reproducible success.

Chris

ResinRat2

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your info. What I have experienced so far with my setups always gave me the zinc plating on the tungsten when I was above 0.9Volts. I wonder what would happen with your 1 minute on and 5 minutes off at a lower voltage. I'm thinking you regenerate only the thinnest layer of zinc and then burn it off again over the 5 minutes of the reaction that occurs without regeneration. I am thinking that the zincates form more easily the thicker the regeneration layer (or longer regeneration time). So short regeneration times may be best. This is just a personal guess.

I have not modified my setup yet, I have been very busy with personal responsibilities lately and have not found the time.
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ResinRat2

Hi Chris,

Also, what came to mind was my experience when I removed the zinc electrodes from a cell that had ran for several days and replaced the zinc electrode with a copper electrode. I put a reverse current so that zinc would plate on the copper and I was able to run the hydrogen reaction after that by connecting the tungsten carbide and zinc plated copper electrodes together. The thing I noticed was that the zinc plated very very quickly onto the copper. Within seconds. I would guess less than 10 seconds.

Perhaps the regeneration time needs to be only seconds instead of a minute. Maybe only 10 seconds or so, and then let the hydrogen reaction run without regeneration for 5 or 10 minutes before another regeneration period of only 10 seconds. That way you have a really short regeneration time, keeping the zinc layer very thin, and then burn it off with the hydrogen reaction before the next regeneration. This may be the key, it may even work better with your higher voltage; but I would start with 0.9 volts first.

I think we are getting closer to understanding the key to the regeneration. It will just take a bit more trial and error.

Thanks for all your effort Chris. As soon as I can I will get my unit running with a short regeneration period like i described.

Very soon, I believe we will get there.
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triffid

I have been cleaning my garage and unearthed two more gallons of muratic acid and some H2SO4 acid too.So maybe in Nov.I can get started on the acid experiments of Dr.linnard's patents.I'm thinking if I just use a steel pot that that supply the needed iron,the iron could be regenerated back on the walls of the pot.I'm also considering putting heat resistant glass
into a steel unit.So I will most likely do both.Triffid

ResinRat2

Hi Triff,

Whoohoo, now you have both hydrochloric and sulfuric acids to play with. Too bad you have to wait a while, but it would interest me greatly how the acid reactions rate when compared to the base KOH ones. I'm looking forward to it.

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Hi Chris,

Well, I finished assembling my short timer regeneration unit last night. I should get it operational tonight. This will have short regeneration times of less than a minute, followed by about 4 or 5 minutes of off time. This should be interesting. I am going to use your configuration with one zinc electrode. We'll see how it goes!!  8)

Thanks for your interest everyone.
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