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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

Thanks Mikestocks2000,

This is a great diagram that you reference. It shows how this reaction runs on ambient air energy (the thermal input in the lower right hand corner). The combination of ambient air energy and magnesium colloid (in my cell's case) help to regenerate the oxidized zinc metal. This is what causes the lower energy requirements. The air energy is our energy "gain" from this reaction and should be recovered when the hydrogen runs through the fuel cell.

I appreciate the information. Thanks!

Dave (RR2)
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

NssB

Just a thought, after finally catching up on 60 pages   ;D

RR2: How scalable will this system be while still remaining in the realms of "relatively safe" for the average amateur builder?
I for one one like to see myself replicating this on a "GROG - Get Rid Of Grid" scale.

What are your thoughts?

NssB

P.S Fantastic approach and energy to your own replication of the patent, congrats!

ResinRat2

Hi NssB,

Look here at the link to Dr. Griffin's company AirGen. It shows a few of the products they plan to sell:

http://www.airgencorp.com/product.html

Now Dr. Griffin has a video on the web where he has a plexiglass reactor about the size of one of the old large microwave ovens that he was using to run a go-cart. Initially he had the gas rate going at (in his own words) "70 plus liters per minute". If you look at AirGen product AG20 hydrogen generator at this link you will see that a rate of 75 liters per minute can give you 5 Kw of power through a fuel cell. Does that sound unreasonable? I don't think so.

The smaller generator AG6 can give off 15 liters / minute and supply a  1 kw fuel cell.

Average household power consumption: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/BoiLu.shtml

This gives you an idea of the size. Probably a unit the size of a small microwave can power the average household.

This really gives me incentive to keep up this research.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

NssB

Thank you for your quick reply.

I am certainly inspired by your enthusiasm. The Doc may well be on the brink of going down in history as we know it.
However, I sincerely doubt the powers that be will sit idly by while we rock the ever fragile foundations of the filthy economy of oil. I guess they can't get all of us right... God bless the Internet!

The price of a 10W fuel cell is pretty high as it is, never mind a 1kW cell.

All the very best of luck with this RR2, and that goes to all the other builders as well. I for one will be following this with very close interest.


Regards
NssB

P.S My interest is the very least I can pay someone for potentially saving our world ;)


ResinRat2

Quote from: NssB on August 10, 2007, 12:41:21 PM
The price of a 10W fuel cell is pretty high as it is, never mind a 1kW cell.

At the present time, I've seen prices around 40-60 grand. A bit steep (to say the least) but prices should drop in the future as this is still an emerging technology.

1kw wouldn't get you off the grid, but you could be running the meter backwards most of the time.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.