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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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NssB

I have an average bill for household power of ?60($120 approx) a month. Over the year this works out at ?720 ($1440 approx). I'm good at Maths huh! :P

$40000 / $1440 = roughly 27 years.

So theoretically, if I get a 1KW gen, at your best price quoted.....and have it operate nominally as you are trying to....
It would take me approx 27 years to re-coup my investment. (assuming all I need is 1kW)
Assume the cost comes down by half over a 5 year period as the techology "emerges", we would still be looking at 13-18 years of recoup. I can't see government grants being on the Agenda to be honest, but you never know.

I guess we just wait and see huh...

March on!

NssB

dutchy1966

@NssB

Guess we better figure out how to run a motor/generator combo from the hydrogen.....lot cheaper....

regards,

Robert

wile_coyote7

Quote from: ResinRat2 on August 10, 2007, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: NssB on August 10, 2007, 12:41:21 PM
The price of a 10W fuel cell is pretty high as it is, never mind a 1kW cell.

At the present time, I've seen prices around 40-60 grand. A bit steep (to say the least) but prices should drop in the future as this is still an emerging technology.

1kw wouldn't get you off the grid, but you could be running the meter backwards most of the time.

40-60 grand? Hmm....I guess I better start saving up then. I may need to crack open my son's piggy bank too! :)
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ResinRat2

Yes, fuel cell costs are very expensive.  :(

Part of the electricity would need to go toward the regeneration, I haven't even figured that aspect out yet.

I guess this would go toward any hydrogen technology as well. What flow rate do you need to run a generator? Say a 1Kw generator?

I have no idea. I'm glad you brought it up NssB. All my research has been concentrating on achieving overunity. That means excess output over regeneration costs. I haven't been looking at anything else.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Hi NssB,

Does this mean that the cost of fuel cells totally negates the usefulness of this process?

Since the regeneration of the zinc takes, according to AirGen's website, less than a volt; does this mean it is no longer worth it?

What about using a small fuel cell ( a few hundred bucks) to use just to regenerate the zinc. The rest of the hydrogen gas could go for running a generator. Would this be a more useful direction?
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.