Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

In case we want to use the gasses for say, burning, we don't have the overflow problem right? They just can be mixed then right?
regards,
Robert

Well, the fuel cell is needed for the regeneration, so the gases would still need to be separated for that. So I guess the answer to your question is no. Sorry Robert.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Everyone,

Attached is a drawing of the side view of my setup. The T electrodes are tungsten/carbide and produce the hydrogen that flows into two fuel cell. The Z electrodes are the zinc. One T-Z connection goes through a fuel cell that gives a reverse current and regenerates the zinc electrode and produces the oxygen. The other T-Z connection is just connected with a copper wire connection and spontaneously produces the hydrogen. The hydrogen gas (H) flows into the fuel cells, the oxygen gas (O) I have flowing into a container of water. By raising the water container up and down I can vary the back pressure.

If I don't have enough back pressure then the hydrogen gas pushes the electrolyte liquid up through the oxygen side of the gas opening and overflows into the water container. If I have too much back pressure then the electrolyte liquid is pushed up through the hydrogen tube into the fuel cells. Notice at the center of the reactor that the two chambers are joined by a connection that allows the electrolyte to flow between the chambers. This connection is why the two chambers alter each others liquid level. I need this connection in order for the electrolyte to flow between the two chambers.

I can raise or lower the water container and get a back pressure equilibrium, but it alway changes eventually and causes an overflow.

If anyone has any ideas how this can be altered to keep a steady backpressure then please let me know. I appreciate the help.

Let me know if any clarifications or extra details are needed.

Thanks in advance for everyone's help.

[TheNOP]

If anyone has any ideas how this can be altered to keep a steady backpressure then please let me know. I appreciate the help.

floates and needle valves and/or pressure sensors.

- If one float get lower than the other, the gaz flow of the other compartment must be closed to build pressure in it.

- Pressure sensor(s) could stop production if pressure in hydrogen compartment get too high.


A float needle valve could be use for water "auto feed" too.

[ResinRat2]

Whatever flow control there is needs to be simply mechanical, with no electrical requirements. It would be better if the reactor itself could be modified to correct this problem. Let's all think simple. Nothing complicated or elaborate.

Mike, I have some numbers. The fan itself draws 1.4V at 33mA while it is running. The zinc regeneration circuit shows 0.813V at only 3.4mA with the Volt meter in the circuit. Yes that's 3.4mA. Not much power required to regenerate the zinc in this system.

So does that mean my overunity is the fan load? I think I will go out to Radio Shack, or someplace else and buy some small loads for this unit. Just to max out the load and see what this unit can do.

[walterj7]

Resin,

Solution might be as simple as a PRV (Pressure relief valve) on the offending side (Oxygen) set to some low pressure like under max pressure maybe in the WC inches (Cater Column range) you could try some settings of max pressure and zero in on something pretty low that would allow extended running time.

Walterj