Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

Kingrs,

Please read Linnard's patent and experiment#13.

According to the patent, all components involved in this reaction will be regenerated except water, which is consumed by evolving into hydrogen and oxygen gases.

There is no boron in this reaction mixture. Unless I missed something and somebody would correct me. I am only going by what Dr. Linnard wrote. This experiment requires no electrical input of energy, and it is a catalyst driven reaction. Catalysts are not consumed in this reaction. The five metals involved drive the reaction to completion.

This technology is new to me as well. I only performed the old-style electrolysis in grade-school science class. I never did again in my life until today.

I will begin to re-educate myself on the basics of electrolysis, and what it entails. I never needed it before. I am the first to admit I am woefully lacking in the basics of this reaction. I only followed his (Linnard's) outlined procedure.

To sum things up, no energy input, all components should be regenerated (except water) , a gas is being produced.That's all I know at this point.

[Dingus Mungus]

I can fully understand how this is new ground
for you ResinRat, its new ground for all of us.

-BUT-

Please pay careful attention to the electrodes and
their weights and textures so we can judge if indeed
all components except H2O are indeed regenerated.
I would suggest consistant logging of component
and solution weights and volumes.

Thank you greatly for your time and effort in this field.
~Dingus

[ResinRat2]

Dingus,

I will keep track of appearance, etc. and let you know what I see.

In normal electrolysis I understand that unless platinum electrodes are used that the oxygen electrode oxidizes. Since only one electrode is giving off gas, then this is probably happening.

I admit, forcefully, that I am woefully lacking in knowledge of this area. Electrochemistry is not my cup of tea. So more experienced scientists may give their information on what is happening.

I only ran the experiment, and I am getting gas evolution. What is really happening needs to be investigated.

Thanks for having patience with me. I am always open to correction.

[Dingus Mungus]

In normal electrolysis I understand that unless platinum electrodes are used that the oxygen electrode oxidizes. Since only one electrode is giving off gas, then this is probably happening.

Actually one metal breaks down and one metal is oxidized in a galvanic reaction, but in electrolysis both anode and cathode are similar metals therefor redux does not occur, So it would appear that the device is acting as a battery that electrolyzes its own electrolyte.

I am quite curious to hear how your overnight test concludes.

While I realize you are not familiar with galvanic/voltaic/electrolytic reactions, you are doing exactly what any of us would do with the cell... Testing it thuroughly! I only advise you to track the suggested data to make the testing process shorter. If you can continue to break down water for a extended period of time without significant losses in the metals we may be in business, but I still have a feeling the colloidal solutions and NaOH will have to be replaced which would be energy input.

Thank you again for your contributions and expertise,
~Dingus

[ResinRat2]

Hi everyone,

Just an update on the duplication of Linnard Patent Experiment #13. The experiment has been going on for 14 hours now.

Came in to work this morning and the Tungsten-Carbide electrode was still producing gas at the same slow rate. It looks like the solution level dropped about 4-5ml (approx) and the solution has developed a very slight brownish tinge. This is probably not due to the electrolysis because the unused solution that I have stored in a jar right next to the beaker has the same very slight brownish color.

I will be taking pictures today and get them posted as soon as I can. I don't have my digital camera available so I will be using a regular one. Once the pictures are developed for me I'll post them.

Let me describe the apparatus. It consists of a 100ml beaker covered by a plastic lid from a one quart container. This covers the top of the beaker, but allows the gas to escape through the pour lip. The lid also holds the electrodes that are pierced through the lid. So we have the solution in the beaker (80ml start volume), a dead space where gas can collect and escape through the pour lip, the electrodes (one tungsten-carbide, one galvanized nail (zinc)) held in place by the plastic lid. Above the lid a copper wire is connected to each eletrode. When the wires are touched together the production of gas begins. The solution in the beaker consists of 100ml of 10% NaOH(aq) into which was added 8ml of 50ppm colloidal silver and 0.6ml of a 350ppm colloidal magnesium. This gives the same concentrations that were described in experiment #13 of Linnard's patent.
The total volume added to the beaker brought the starting level at 80ml.

A few observations:

The galvanized nail that I am using for the zinc electrode has not changed color below the immersion line but above the immersion line (in the dead space where the gas can collect) the electrode has darkened. Interestingly, above the lid (outside the dead space) the electrode has not changed color.

The Tungsten-Carbide electrode, below the immersion line,has darkened slightly but above the immersion line (the dead space) and outside the lid the color has not changed.

The rate of gas production is not dramatic, but it is slow and steady. I will try adding other tungsten-carbide electrodes to see if I can get the rate of gas production increased today.

Thanks for your interest. I will be adding results here as time progresses.