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Overunity Machines Forum



FUEL VAPORIZATION, DOUBLES MILEAGE

Started by dirt diggler, July 21, 2008, 03:34:18 PM

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TheOne

The WAI (warm air intake) is a good mod, I completely forget about it, I will try it, I just need to find a flexible tube that sucks the air from the top of the motor where the normal air does not flow like near to the sparkplug, The copper idea is good but you can get more hot air by getting the air directly from the engine bay.

Hopefully that will help a little bit

Zolar1

You could always try drilling a lot of 1.75 inch holes in your air box before the air filter.

z.monkey

Howdy Y'all,

Back in the 80's we would turn the lid of the air filter housing upside down.  Then it was to increase the flow of air into the air filter housing.  But it could be used to draw in warm air from around the engine.  But I thought the point here was to get better mileage with the same amount of power.  You want to cold, dense outside air to get more oxygen into the combustion chamber.  By heating and vaporizing the fuel then mixing it with the cold, dense outside air you get better power and better mileage.

Swirling the air makes the gasoline move a lot more, further molecularizing (breaking down into individual molecules) the gasoline.  One way to do this is a Cyclone to make the air spin in the intake manifold.  This is something that racers do to gain a little power.  Then the ultimate is a Turbo.  Turbos spin the air really fast.  Turbocharged engines are far more efficient than normally aspirated engines.  You can tell this by the amount of power they make, and by the almost non-existent emissions.  Also the turbo generates high frequency oscillations in the intake manifolds.  You can hear the turbo whine, well this is translated directly into the intake manifold.  This whine goes far above human hearing maybe as high as 50 KHz.  This acts like an ultrasonic transducer shaking the gasoline molecules apart, creating a cleaner burn, and fewer emissions.

Why not take all of the concepts and put them together.  Warm the fuel, use a Cyclone, put a turbo on it, and use ultrasonic transducers.  Make the system so efficient that there is not one molecule of gasoline that can escape.  You can test the efficiency of the system by hooking the tailpipe up to an emissions tester at the local state inspection facility.  They can tell you if you have unburned hydrocarbons coming out of your tailpipe.  Back when I had a Turbo Sunbird I never had a problem with the emissions test.  The turbo made it burn really clean, and my foot made sure the engine was hot.

Blessed Be Brothers...
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exxcomm0n

@ zmonkey

I have a '95 2G Eagle TSi that I've done a 1G swap into and am presently bogged down at the point so near the end it's not funny (vacuum tubes). I drive a '99 2G Mitsubishi Spyder GST that is bone stock as well as a '91 Toyota Camry that gets the most use these days due to gas prices.

EDIT

(Uh...the TSi and GST are both turbos, plus a Plymouth laser RSi.)

Let's just say I have too many cars, cause that's not all of them.

But I think you're missing a major point of turbo induction mechanics.

It serves the purpose of ramming air into the combustions chamber SO MORE gas can be added to it as well making for a marked power increase and cleaner emmisions

This is not a gas saving but a performance increasing enhancement (and used to greatly reduce emissions from diesel engines).

I'm not saying that a turbo wouldn't be a good addition to the mix for this experiment, in fact I think it's a great addition, but the intercooler (a radiator to loose the heat energy in induction air from turbo compression) could cool the mixture down far enough that the gas would re-condense into liquid petroleum and defeat the effect.

I think that the intercooler should be used BEFORE turbo compression (between air filter and turbo), instead of after as is normally done, which would help get more air to the turbo passively so it could heat the air by compressing it (as well as its proximity to the exhaust areas) to create the fumes that are the central focus of the thread.

The whole reason I think this approach makes the most sense and could effect the most change soon is that it's not asking people to switch their fuel, only use it more efficiently.

The object lesson that a container that has barely any liquid gas, but lots of contained fumes is more explosive than a full one should help introduce others to the idea as quite a few have heard that one. ;)

We can't have more fumes with cold dense air, but we can with larger volumes of "fumed" air whose movement and heat create the fumes with a non-inter-cooled turbo.

Kosher dude?

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z.monkey

Howdy exxcomm0n,

OK, so use the Cyclone to create a vortex in the intake manifold, and use the ultrasonic transducers to molecularize the gasoline.  Draw the air in across the outside of the exhaust manifold so its nice and toasty and keeps the gasoline vaporized on its way into the combustion chamber.  Hey, were just exchanging theoreticals here, no need to get puffy about it...

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Goodwill to All, for All is One!