Mysterious Resonant Circuit

[xee]

@ Peterae
Thanks for the coil data. You do great documentation.

[EMdevices]

@duff, for the polarity  go by the (+) and (-) symbols, and not by the short and long bars, since I never know which is which  

@Peter, feel free to go right ahead, don't wait for me.  I'm slow and methodical and there's plenty of room for everyone to share in the "glory", we have a way to go to scale it up and close the loop efectively.  Right now this thing is more of a curiosity circuit, but can teach us important lessons if we study it closely and determine the "secret" of why it's acting the way it is.  Then we can scale up wisely and efectively having removed the guess work.

@Mannix, I agree with you.  RF can sneak around the probes and short out through space capacitance, so DC would be more trustworthy,  I'm ordering some nice diodes...

@ Stefan,  there are big vibrations and the associated noise of around 4-5 kHz when I adjust the capacitance somewhat and go off frequency, but for all the scopes shots I posted,  the operation does not have the vibrations (and noise) on purpose, I adjusted things to eliminate all that, but there could be tiny vibrations still present that do not affect the scope waveform.    I have not played with the turns ratio yet, or spacing of coils, etc..  

@Frederick,  I'll be doing more tests and I'll definitely try to see if a faraday cage makes a difference.

@all,  I have more scope shots comparing the voltage at the 3 coils,  and it's very interesting that they are out of phase with each other.  If we assume coil A is 0 phase,  then coil B seemed to be 90 phase, and C was 180.   This tells me that voltage is not determined entirely by the FLUX changeing in the core, as in V = N d phi/dt, or else they should all be in phase, wouldn't they?   However, at the same time a magnet brought close to the core does affect the frequency somewhat, so the inductance of the core does play a part.  I'm thinking capacitive coupling between the coils is playing a part as well at these high frequencies, and one can tell since even bringing the hand close to the circuit has some effect, which is to be expected with these high RF frequencies.

I did try a crude rectifyer setup with some existing diodes I had laying around(not sure what kind), and was able to get about 13 volts DC (Pout = 13^2 / 150 = 1.127 watts) but it's not quite OU since the waveforms change and my current input increases(phasing between current and voltage chages at the collector/base junctions). I was expecting this since the output impedance is not quite the same now, so it's not as easy as some assume.  With RF everything is about matching impedences (and for DC as well)  Anyway, I'll have to do more experimenting and figure out the voltage drop of the diodes in forward conduction, etc.., so this is work in progress, but the power is there and with the right tweaking we'll have a true bonified closed loop OU circuit without all the uncertainty of measurement equipment interveaning and suppresing our joy and exuberence...   LOL 

Oh, I almost forgot an important occurance, but before I tell you I want to be clear that  I'm not the paranoid type and I even jokingly dismissed Bob Boyces stories about lightning strikes, etc..   Well,  last evening I came home and there was light rain, and boom........  I was in the living room and I saw orange light reflecting on the outside building and droped to the ground by instinct, I was shaken to say the least.   My wife thought I got hit but I didn't.  I figured two houses down the road got hit since they have a high roofline and lighting rods on the roof.  Well  a few minutes later fire trucks pull in the drive way,   and block our road and I come to find out it's my neighbor on the other side of my house, he had a 7" hole in the top of his roof and smoke filed their house but they were ok, they put a tarp up there.  However, I tried to get on my computer and realized the circut breaker snaped for only that room, so I must of had some of the energy couple to my house.   Anyway, here's the crazy thing,  that room is where I experiment with the torids, right by the window, and this room is the closes to where the lightning hit my neighbor.  Spacing between houses is about 12 feet or so and figure another 12 feet slope distance up to the corner of the roof, and that's how close it was.  My neighbor has been in lightning storms before and said in 15 years or so never had this happen anywhere in the neighborhood.   So, not sure what to think, the circuit was not on at the time, last time it was on was about 24 hours before, but I'm thinking could there be a coincidence?  could a "paterning" of the "eather" somehow develop and make a low "resistive" path in the sky?    It would be nice to do a long term statistical study on certain circuits and their probabilistic effects on lighning patterns.    Anyway,  I hope there is not corelation between a small 1 inch ferrite toroid and lighning strikes.    Take it for what is worth.....  not implying anything here...just something to think about...

EM

[Peterae]

EM That's is strange with the lightning, the night i built this i had to stop because just after i started testing we had a severe lightning storm, i posted here to mention it at the time, i cant remember the last lightning we had, must be well over a year ago, so there you go we have OU just switch on sit back and capture those lightning strikes.

Peter

[aleks]

Take it for what is worth.....  not implying anything here...just something to think about...

It may mean you are on a right track. Even electrons have to go through a lot of resistance before current starts flowing in a closed circuit.

[aleks]

If we assume coil A is 0 phase,  then coil B seemed to be 90 phase, and C was 180.

It's a good sign since having "cancelled out flux" (0 deg & 180 deg signals) produces "radiant electricity field" or aether vortex. Whereas in acoustics, destructive interference produces a lowered pressure, in electricity it likewise produces a "relaxed" aether. I think (well, it may be a bit different, not completely comparable to acoustics). But what always bothered me is WHAT happens to energy that goes side-by-side, in anti-phase. Something should happen. In acoustics, it's probably a statistical "zero" while in aether it may mean more than that: such interference may change state of the aether. It's what I wanted to say.