Rolling rotating magnet motor idea.

[Low-Q]

Keeping saying that magnet motors can't work, I just got an idea maybe some one could try out - or at least imagine the outcome:

Make an  "infinite" array of many magnets, as in a circle. Let every magnet be square. Let every magnet after one another alter direction of polarity by +45 degrees - NB! Magnetization of 45, 135, 225, and 315 degrees are diagonally on the respective square array magnets. Means that every 8.th magnet have same direction of polarity (regardless of direction of initial polarity).

Now. Let a round piston shaped magnet, magnetized through the diameter have the diameter equal to the half of the distance between every 8 magnets. Place the pistonmagnet tangential to the magnet array so it simply can roll on the magnet array.

The equiberillum (Or what the name is (complicated)), the rolling magnet will soon find out by itself when just putted on the magnet array - and it can be anywhere on the array - not allways in the middle of one of the array magnets..

Now, turn the rolling magnet 45 degrees right at the spot where it initially did find its equiburillun. Feel the oposite rolling force in that magnet (of course you will feel that). Well, the one side is now attracting the magnets in the array, and the oposite side is repelling the magnet array (Naturally). If this rolling magnet is now fixed to a tooth wheel, it will allways be pushed from the back and pulled in the front anywhere on the magnet array.

What will then happen if you release this magnet - when it allways wanna find its equiburillum? Will it maybe start spinning out of controll, or nothing will happen?

Time for discussion

If someone cannot picture this, I will make a drawing tomorrow - if I manage to get home from work...

Vidar

[babieintown]

Hi

While i agree that most of invention here in OU forum is impossible, and i feel it's for hobby more or less.
But from my knowledge and experience, i still strong believe that OU can be achieved in some way.
At least in fusion field. 

In magnet, i have limited knowledge on magnetic properties like how does shape effect
on force between magnet, how to calculate magnetic force between magnets that angles each other.
I think that if some one can explain the relations above then we can use mathematics model to predict
the possibility of magnet motor by using specification from magnet supplier.

Personally, though thermodynamics is fluently applied in practice a lot but i think there may be some other circumstance that
it can not apply to or its may be in subset of the bigger rules cover it. I hope we can step to that frontier.

If you have link to some page that can explain the above of my question, please help.
And thanks for your idea on magnet motor, i like it


Br

[dieter]

Vidar I'm looking forward to see a picture.

[Low-Q]

OK. Here is three figures. Read the text inside them to see what options we have in general. Study the pictures and try to find out what will happen.

Look at fig 2 and 3. It seems there is torque in the round magnet in some direction. But how does the magnet array influence on the round magnet sideways? Will the round magnet be held back by other forces while the torque wants to go the other direction?

Something to take a look at I guess.

Br.

Vidar

[Blainiac]

Did you do any simulations or build of this Vidar?