Electrinium

[Koen1]

Yes, stacking different metals seperated by isolators, especially bad isolators,
will give you a voltage. And especuially when there is pressure on the stack.

You may want to check out the Zamboni or Duluc "Dry pile" in that respect;
those are basically Voltaic stacks of different metals (silver-copper for example)
that were seperated by pieces of paper, pressed together, and sealed in an isolating
layer. In contrast to the Voltaic and other Galvanic piles, they work
without having to submerge the pile in an acidic or electrolytic fluid, but on the other hand
they also produce mainly volts and very little if any amps.
It is classical electrical stuff, from way back in the 1800s or so.

I have recently made another version of such a "dry pile" to show a friend that the principle
works. The version I made consists of approximately 40 stacked layers of copper foil, kitchen
paper (the waxed kind), and aluminium foil, and measures 4cm by 4cm (by something like 2cm high).
The thing is nothing more than a stack of alu-copper-paper-alu-copper-paper-etc.
Wires are attached to the outermost aluminium and copper foil layers, and the entire thing is
squeezed together.
Last time I checked it, which was last week, it still did what it's supposed to do: after touching the
wires to eachother to allow the plates to discharge, and hooking up my multimeter, it read
a very low 0.01V which within a minute or two had risen to 0.5V, and then the self-charge speed
drops drastically and it takes another 5 minutes or so for it to reach 1V. Seems as charge increases
so does charge time, and after another 5 minutes or so, at approx 1.2V I decided I had been waiting
long enough.
This self-charge behavious is exactly what it did before, it is very similar to the same type of behaviour
as some of my past test showed, and it is exactly the type of behaviour said to describe the Duluc
and Zamboni dry piles. It is said that the electrostatic bell at Oxford is and has been powered by
such a type of dry pile since 1840 or so.
So yeah, these are electrostatic power sources. Zamboni style piles, it is said, could easily reach
the kilovolts.

But really, we've been over all this in the Crystal Cell thread.

[nitinnun]

the electrical resistance between the 2 metals is SO HIGH, that my multimeter cannot read the resistance.
even though my multimeter can read up to several mega-ohms.

this cell does not start charging up when i connect the leads.
it is already charged up. and stays charged up forever.
until i either hsort it out or destroy it.

i seriously doubt that your0.5 volts of metals and paper, was 1/16 of an inch thick.



do you EVER type anything that is worth reading, koen1?

do you EVER type anything, that is not an attack on something?

do you EVER type a post, that is less than 80% useless-wordage?

[nievesoliveras]

Hi!

@nitinnun
You are always occupied on something and that is good. There is a saying that states "Keep busy and youll be alright".
I have not tried the glue battery yet, because I am waiting for a good result to start spending more money on experiments. I have spent thousands and have not gotten anything OU, but has adquired some good knowledge in the process.
Keep being as you are!

I found a battery that seems to be made with just zink an carbon, but it is short on details. I know that this for jeanna and her friends would be great to find out. I forgot to jot down the link before the machine froze though.

Jesus

[Koen1]

the electrical resistance between the 2 metals is SO HIGH, that my multimeter cannot read the resistance.
even though my multimeter can read up to several mega-ohms.

this cell does not start charging up when i connect the leads.
it is already charged up. and stays charged up forever.
until i either hsort it out or destroy it.

Of course. And then you short it. And then, what happens?
Surely when you short it, the voltage drops?
And then afterward it rises again?
Well, so then it doesn't stay charged forever, but it re-charges itself
after you discharged it, right?
Right. That's what I'm saying.

i seriously doubt that your0.5 volts of metals and paper, was 1/16 of an inch thick.

Hey doubt all you want. Build a Zamboni dry pile and see for yourself.
Or call Oxford and ask them about theirs.
It's easy to doubt things when you never try them.
It's easy to claim you're right when you haven't tried to falsify your statements.
But it is a well documented phenomenon and setup, the dry pile.
Just look it up.

do you EVER type anything that is worth reading, koen1?

What kind of dumb remark is that?
Are you saying that your large number of posts in which you basically revisit
old ideas of others and act as if you're the one to "discover" them are worth
more than my simple remark that you might want to investigate the phenomenon
of the dry pile? Don't be silly.

In fact, you were the one who questioned the correctness of my statements
about the dry pile and my replication of one. That is quite silly. It is like
questioning the correctness of the Galvanic cell. There is no question,
they have been around since 1800.

do you EVER type anything, that is not an attack on something?

Yes, often enough. Like for example the entire post about the dry pile.
That was clearly not an attack on anyone, it was clearly intended to point out
the dry pile to those who don't know it. Like, as it seems, you.

Do you ever take the time to just evaluate a post and see the possible positive
value of it, instead of taking everything I post as an attack? It doesn't look like you do.
Well, be like that. But don't accuse me of attacking you when I don't.

do you EVER type a post, that is less than 80% useless-wordage?

Yes. Q.E.D.

Now get back to the subject; so you claim that you have a pressurised bimetallic
junction that produces high voltage potential

[nievesoliveras]

Hi!

@nitinnun and koen1
It seems that there is a very strong competence between you two. But that is very healthy. When you compete you try to excel in what you are doing. So the competence between you two is going to be beneficial to the world in the long run.

Jesus