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Towards Realizing the TPU

Started by poynt99, September 03, 2008, 08:46:35 PM

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Mannix

great discussions here

I wonder,
if we were to  introduce electron tubes to our experiments ,might the potentiol of an electron tube to generate and use high speed electrons have any additional characteristics that  silicone devices could not handle?

I do not refer to switching times form dirty pulses but the ability of a tube to react to the high speed particles in the "havoc" that has been mentioned here.

If we create havoc with electron tubes driving flux cancelling bifilar rings  will it be "pure" havoc  ?

We do need to use all the clues, as muddy as they might seem but , we most certainly need to use the actual specifics given .

It might be a long road in either case ..but we all have been given a shortcut.( that very,very few seem to want to include)

Steven said that he would never have discovered it using ss devices...and that tubes are just as important today as they were back then ..


Ultra high speed particles are common to every single device so far ..... dont shunt them with things that were never designed to deal with them.

Just look at the spec sheets of ss...then tubes..You might say that tubes dont have nearly as many "specifications"

It may be that a bunch of wire can be excited to perform like a tube by using ss to initiate the reaction required if the bunch of wire is just right.

Just trying to help with the little that I have Just Ignore this if it doesnt fit .It is  interesting  whatever you do



Lindsay

wattsup

@wattsup

I am open to everything.

Here are photos of both tubes mentioned 5AR4 and 5U4 GB.
Shit. They are not that complicated a design for tubes we usually see such as the pentode and triode type tubes that have so many complex areas. This is simple shit. Very symmetric just like the TPUs. I wonder if I can find a wiring diagram for these tubes. lol.

So here is another question.
Anode - Cathode - Plate
Does an Anode have a north and south polarity? Does a cathode have a north and south polarity? If not, can a ring only have one polarity? Can you have two rings with one polarity each? 


Added:

Found pdfs and put them here.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/tubes/5AR4/5AR4.pdf
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/tubes/5U4%20GB/5u4-gb.pdf

rensseak


forest

I know nothing about tubes :-( It was always and still is a mystery for me how they do electron multiplication. I mean I was told (don't know if this is correct) that AC signal put into it with a small DC put on grid. The output seems to have current enlarged with electrons from DC signal ??


Could somebody explain it and how it relates to TPU ?

@Loner

I saw video about first TPU  which was producing volts but very little amps.Apparently part of final TPU was not there, only kicks accumulate, no current.

sparks

    In the days preceeding tubes and solidstate there was a need for rectification.
Two inventors that I know of went about this.  Daniel McFarland Cook and Tesla.
Tesla had to make a diode to interface with Edison's dc system to make Westinghouse's new ac system retrofittable to existing dc distribution and loads.    Tesla's dynamic transformer was never used as Westinghouse made more money selling motor generator sets than implementing Tesla's dynamic transformation system.   Both men accomplished this by the use of lumping two chokes on a common core.  The response of the two different inductance rated windings to a common core saturation change were magnetically additive on a close coupled basis between windings.  The resultant dc  then distributed through the dc load.  A diode suffers from the lack of positive and negative charge carriers to handle the current.  Whereas in the skin of a conductor we find ample free electrons and holes.  A conductor can also transmit energy as a longitudinal or sound type wave through the electron cloud.  This phenomenon allows for very rapid communication of a magnetic field anamoly on one end of the wire to appear at the other end of the wire.  This information exchange is not resisted as in conventional current flow as it does not involve electron acceleration but what could be more looked on as diode hole oscillation.
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