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Towards Realizing the TPU

Started by poynt99, September 03, 2008, 08:46:35 PM

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kacor

@all
I don't know will it help to understand the mystery of the TPU or not but I found an interesting thing about of vacuum tubes.
There are many difference between SS and tubes but the biggest one is:
tubes can work without supply. (Heating is need!)
No, I'm not fool!
There are two example:
The first one is double diode: without load the output voltage is 2,5 V and 1V with 50 microampere.
The second one is an oscillator with a pentode. Its output is 300mV HF. The inner resistance of the pentode (in that case) is very low and its gain is only 2....3.

Hoping you find it also interesting (maybe useful) information.

Bless you all

Kacor

Mannix

http://www.rexresearch.com/moray/speech.htm

Thomas Moray used cold cathode tubes ,linking several coils in perfect resonance to isolate the resonant circuits so that there was no "feedback"

there are many writings from this man.

Combine Moray's work with Steven Mark's information about tubes and some interesting correlations are found.

It is MY opinion that the electron tube is used to initiate the catalyst in the same way that a spark is used to light a fire.

From all the info that I released, it is clear that unless tubes are used initially we have little chance of seeing the effect.

But of course later units did not have them, but used devices that duplicated their function, devices that took a team 10 years to make .

Personally I think that are a form of mag amp/saturable inductor but we will probably never get the specifics of this part of the device.
Without specific info about that and no running generators what chance would we have to design such a thing from such a long way off.


Those tube pictures are Excellent...I suggest to read morays writings at this point. If nothing else you might see just how different this is from the conventional understanding that we have absorbed for the purpose of maintaining machines that pump from central  source to heat wasting destinations.

After all, we only need information that allows us to contribute to society as we know it. In one strange way , the better your education the harder it might be to absorb..as that does not make any body out to be dumb or stupid...just unaware....yet

Playing with these possibilities will make you isolated from your peers , socially inoperative, and I suggest that it might not be a good idea.

You dont go down to your local and discuss resonance do you?
the party will end..you will have less friends....however your only true friends may admire you more  ...want to test this?


Tell people that you know of devices that will give them free power and they just want to know . Where do you get one? obviously if the power is free they should not have to pay much for it. This is the commercial problem that every inventor of these things has faced. All that is left is for lots of people to nail this down and make common knowledge by their own re discovery and sharing of it.
Put money in the picture and this stuff  becomes priceless, which is the very process that kills it ..we all have played a part in that and may continue to do so.

enough spruke from me ..for now ,thanks for listening

Good hunting

Lindsay





EMdevices

read pages 514 to 520  from this 1893 publication of the American Journal of Science. 

http://books.google.com/books?id=F_UQAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA518&lpg=PA518&dq=iron+wire+resonance&source=bl&ots=GbTpOoetoM&sig=aih1UUR2SP-YKCVqH1-gu54hkPc&hl=en&ei=XyqFSbbOM4zgMNHMmc0D&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA514,M1

M. I. Pupin (PhD), professor at Columbia College of New York, even thanks Mr. Tesla for his help on some of the previous pages.  This paper describes his experiments in resonance and his observation of strange hysterisis effects created by inserting iron wires inside a coil  (to change it's self inductance since iron is magnetizable)  His setup is basic:  an alternator to produce a steady frequency source of current;  a transformer; and a coil and variable capacitor forming a resonant tank circuit.   The thin iron wires are inserted one by one, or in bundles, inside the coil center, or core, to affect it's self inductance.

It's pretty neat to read such old literature, and you can see the very first signs of magnetostriciton at work, even though it wasn't fully recognized at the time.  Notice the low frequency resonance that can be achieved, and the "singing wires", and heat buildup.

EM

P.S.  Take a look at the modern problem of ferro-resonance in power distribution.  
http://www.electricnet.com/article.mvc/Ferroresonance-A-Brief-Explanation-0001?VNETCOOKIE=NO

To be successful in replicating a SM style TPU  (the original) one needs to understand these issues, as the SM's TPUs are resonant devices tuned to the magnetic energy around them originating from the overhead power lines.  These devices are not overunity or free energy, but they are conversion devices like SM says himself.  What is needed is a high Q form of resonance to build up sufficient voltage in the magnetic loops  (i.e, the TPUs), and LC resonance might prove useful at only close proximity to the lines, on the other hand, ferroresonance and magnetostriction allow for the realization of higher Q mechanical vibration tank circuits that can effectively capture the energy from the power lines at a greater distance from them, just as SM demonstrated outside the mansion.

forest

Some additional comments from our friend :

I take a motor having, say eight poles, and wrap the exciting coils of four alternate cores with fine insulated iron wire. When the current is started in these coils it encounters the effect of the closed magnetic circuit and is retarded. The magnetic lines set up at the start close to the iron wire around the coils and no free poles appear at first at the ends of the four cores. As the current rises in the coils more lines are set up, which crowd more and more in the fine iron wire until finally the same becomes saturated, or nearly so, when the shielding action of the iron wire ceases and free poles appear at the ends of the four protected cores. The effect of the iron wire, as will be seen, is two-fold. First, it retards the energizing current; and second, it delays the appearance of the free poles. To produce still greater difference of phase in the magnetization of the protected and unprotected cores, I connect the iron wire surrounding the coils of the former in series with the coils of the latter, in which case, of course, the iron wire is preferably wound or connected differentially, after the fashion of the resistance, coils in a bridge, so as to have no appreciable self-induction. In other cases I obtain the desired retardation in the appearance of the free poles on one set of cores by a magnetic shunt, which produces a greater retardation of the current and takes up at the start a certain number of the lines set up, but becomes saturated when the current in the exciting coils reaches a predetermined strength.

In the transformer the same principle of shielding is utilized. A primary conductor is surrounded with a fine layer of laminated iron, consisting of fine iron wire or plates properly insulated and interrupted. As long as the current in the primary conductor is so small that the iron enclosure can carry all the lines of force set up by the current, there is very little action exerted upon a secondary conductor placed in vicinity to the first; but just as soon as the iron enclosure becomes saturated, or nearly so, it loses the virtue of protecting the secondary and the inducing action of the primary practically begins.

Best regards
Nikola Tesla

forest

Quote from: forest on February 01, 2009, 06:14:49 AM
Some additional comments from our friend :

I take a motor having, say eight poles, and wrap the exciting coils of four alternate cores with fine insulated iron wire. When the current is started in these coils it encounters the effect of the closed magnetic circuit and is retarded. The magnetic lines set up at the start close to the iron wire around the coils and no free poles appear at first at the ends of the four cores. As the current rises in the coils more lines are set up, which crowd more and more in the fine iron wire until finally the same becomes saturated, or nearly so, when the shielding action of the iron wire ceases and free poles appear at the ends of the four protected cores. The effect of the iron wire, as will be seen, is two-fold. First, it retards the energizing current; and second, it delays the appearance of the free poles. To produce still greater difference of phase in the magnetization of the protected and unprotected cores, I connect the iron wire surrounding the coils of the former in series with the coils of the latter, in which case, of course, the iron wire is preferably wound or connected differentially, after the fashion of the resistance, coils in a bridge, so as to have no appreciable self-induction. In other cases I obtain the desired retardation in the appearance of the free poles on one set of cores by a magnetic shunt, which produces a greater retardation of the current and takes up at the start a certain number of the lines set up, but becomes saturated when the current in the exciting coils reaches a predetermined strength.

In the transformer the same principle of shielding is utilized. A primary conductor is surrounded with a fine layer of laminated iron, consisting of fine iron wire or plates properly insulated and interrupted. As long as the current in the primary conductor is so small that the iron enclosure can carry all the lines of force set up by the current, there is very little action exerted upon a secondary conductor placed in vicinity to the first; but just as soon as the iron enclosure becomes saturated, or nearly so, it loses the virtue of protecting the secondary and the inducing action of the primary practically begins.

Best regards
Nikola Tesla


Do you have any idea what Tesla was talking about regarding bold statement ?