Towards Realizing the TPU

[wattsup]

@otto

According to my observations of the FTPU, the number of turns is about 22 per 180 degrees over the 6 inch ring.

Maybe for the 4 inch TPU a total 22 turns would be a good test but in the 4 inch, I am almost certain that each of the two rings are composed of many rings in parallel in order to increase the amperage and light that bulb.

I think we all should have started with the FTPU coils and rings since a long time ago as we would have had more data and guys could have tried all the variations possible. I am still very amazed at the coupling ability between the coil and rings. I am also surprised to see this activity is happenning at the 5khz  (good) range, the 200khz (good) range and also the 1.2mhz (best) or thereabouts. I would like one day to buy a new scope with the more modern and complete readouts instead of figuring out the uS, nS, mS settings on my current scope. lol

Last night I tried with rings in series mobius with outputs taken at two inverse points. The results were not good with more input then output. But there are many variations of coil connections to test yet.

Tonight I will try with a center toroid with each of the two toroid coils going to each of the rings in series. I think that if each ring was energized separately then go through half of the center toroid, both rings will have a possible increase in output because they can build up some mutual gain in the toroid core.

Each set-up takes time to test because you  have to try with so many frequencies slowly, then changing the pulse width and starting over the range again, etc. I am lucky to have my HP pulser since this has saved me so much time.

So remember when SM put his ammeter on the LTPU, it was highest at the two center toroids and lowest at the output coils. I am sure now the output is going through the toroids but not as a regulating choke but simply as a point where you can have gain.

Also, remember the MTPU has only one center toroid. This is because the outer core only had two rings, just like the FTPU. The MTPU was producing 400 something volts. But I think in the LTPU having two center toroids, the outer core has 4 rings, 2 per toroid, all run in series. Like having two MTPU's to equal one LTPU.

SM just made different variations of the FTPU so if we can make an FTPU, we should be able to then make the bigger ones.

Well, I am happy to be back on the TPU's after spending the last few months  in this magnetic wheel thingy. From now on, whatever I decide to build, I will not stop the TPU.

I know you are working on this in a different angle but hopefully, whatever I learn and post will help you also.

Something else just hit me about the mobius loop. Remember the ECD circuit diagram where the phase outputs where taken right off the mobius. Well I was thinking about this for the FTPU and was asking, how can I make a mobius loop turn and turn and then put two outputs off the ring. Well the answer is you do not touch the mobius. If you pass the mobius in series through one half of the center toroid, then the other half of the toroid is your output without touching the mobius loop at all. I will try this also tonight. lol

Keep well and keep up the good work.

[otto]

Hello all,

@wattsup

Im using 22 turns in my 15" TPU. They are very good and make sence.

Each of the two rings ARE composed of many rings in paralel - lamp wire is to use - but DONT so much increase the amperage.

So, in short, use for the collectors AND controls a lamp wire.

Try various connections and tell us if you see something weird. Of course, the collector and control connected in series.

Maybe its better to build a 15" ring so you have not to worry about your fingers.
I hope youre pulsating this setup with a high voltage of at least 10kV!

Otto

[Mannix]

Hi all,

I have been away for awhile and will answer emails in a few days

The FTPU...The most inspiring of all , and the most info of all
Here is how I believe this little unit might run

Perhaps we can forget 3 frequencies as the source drive because there is clearly 1 torriod/mag amp in the centre. In fact I would just forget lots of things  except the video in this case.

So there must be  2 race tracks top and bottom
"there is a frequency pattern setup in here" I like that quote and he had not referenced in any correspondence.

The center oscillator would be  wired to create rotation which probably happens by driving top and bottom opposites on the outer rim running in separate directions and wired to the center unit in such a way that with the small power of the oscillator running nothing much happens. A null balance would have to be achieved first.

When a magnet biases the blocking oscillator an imbalance occurs on the center unit which allows more effort in one direction than the other. Hopefully a directional spin would  develop

some collector energy is fed back to the toroid so that acceleration can continue if the Imbalance is correct

Further enhanced by each outer rim control section containing within it  the tuning cap for the next section .
This is what I see the aluminum foil/faraday shield quadrants  may be about.

Think about 2 sets of  4 hendershot coils stacked in series around the rims.

The joule thief circuits are a good start reference  but unless the speed of the flow can be increased by a larger diameter no rotational inertia will be allowed to develop


None of this could work unless the exciter torroid is mounted central so that the wire lengths will be the same for all "cylinders"

Think of the center toroid as the piston and the outer ring as the fly wheel but there are two flywheels running in different directions.

perhaps  such a device would  spin fast enough to interact with the static magnetic field of the earth.


Lots of questions , mainly how "wire is very important"


I hope that this is of assistance for experiments

Lindsay

[Farrah Day]

Just to jump in here quickly while Mannix is around.

A question for Mannix.  I'm rather curious as to why in all your communications with SM, he never gave any specifics about the actual construction of his TPU. Did you ever ask him for specific details?

It seems odd that he would communicate anything at all if he only intended to leave us with clues, unless the sole purpose of those clues were to mislead.

Please don't immediately assume me to be a nay-sayer as this would be a wrong assumption.  My concern is simply that we may have been dealt a bum hand here, and given how little we really know about the TPU construction and how little progress has been made, I believe any scepticism to be fully justified. Would you not agree?

Why would SM only provide half the story? If he were going to fully disclose the details of the invention he would have done so. There simply would be no logic to only spilling half the beans, unless this was deliberate misinfo. Would you not agree?

As far as I am aware, the only reference to the construction of an SM TPU comes from your communications with SM. Could it be that all this time you and the forum have been led on a merry dance?

[Mannix]

Just to jump in here quickly while Mannix is around.

A question for Mannix.  I'm rather curious as to why in all your communications with SM, he never gave any specifics about the actual construction of his TPU. Did you ever ask him for specific details?

It seems odd that he would communicate anything at all if he only intended to leave us with clues, unless the sole purpose of those clues were to mislead.

Please don't immediately assume me to be a nay-sayer as this would be a wrong assumption.  My concern is simply that we may have been dealt a bum hand here, and given how little we really know about the TPU construction and how little progress has been made, I believe any scepticism to be fully justified. Would you not agree?

Why would SM only provide half the story? If he were going to fully disclose the details of the invention he would have done so. There simply would be no logic to only spilling half the beans, unless this was deliberate misinfo. Would you not agree?

As far as I am aware, the only reference to the construction of an SM TPU comes from your communications with SM. Could it be that all this time you and the forum have been led on a merry dance?

What you suggest is possible. But as far as the first unit goes we must rely on the video only and that would not  seem to not use 3 frequencies.
He also said that heat was a by product of operation yet in the video he says the more power , the more heat.

There surely are inconsistencies, but as to the motive I would not try and guess ..but have a go by all means if it is helpful for you.

Until more specifics are available i would suggest this first unit and the video has a lot of leads that may LATER  put the other things in context.

I hope that will be the case, but either way we will know eventually as long as we keep trying and sharing our resullt if and when we can get this thing spinning at least.

meantime I may learn to dance better
Lindsay