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Towards Realizing the TPU

Started by poynt99, September 03, 2008, 08:46:35 PM

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wattsup

@otto

I will look into it. Thanks. I have been pulsing only 3 - 10 volts dc trying to keep that pulsing in the realistic battery power that would be in an FTPU or OTPU or 6TPU. I don't know about the 10k volts. Where do you get such a power supply. From a neon ballast or what? I have a small device that puts out 100k volts but it only produced inter winding sparks inside some big toroidal transformers I used many many months ago. lol

@mannix

Thanks for your post. Yep I will consider what you have said. There is some good logic there. Please tell me what your thoughts are about the following.

@all

Here's my gyro rant entitled Gyro-Shmyro. I prepared this post during my work day yesterday to not get held up on the bench work when at home. I just finished polishing it up. (sparkle)

I really don't understand why guys are so heaped up on this gyro business. We have wasted months and months on that. So many many angles. They were all very educational in the general sense so there is no total loss since learning is always a plus.

Tell me....... if someone invents a TPU THAT WORKS, will it be less a TPU if there is no Gyro Effect? lol

The TPU was NOT built in a factory assembly line with precision machines doing the windings, placing the right anti stress spacers, no varnish, only a taped up bunch of wires that produced some good output and amperage. So yes, the whole device was under a stress level (like any transformer) but who cares. This has very little  to do with the operation of the device and can supply no helpful clues as to how it is built besides saying and not proving this gyro motion.

Then some guys are thinking, well if I can make a device that can gyro via switched coils, then I have made a TPU. Nothing can be further from the truth. The TPU will be solved when we look elsewhere. lol

Sorry for being so abrupt but this gyro thing does not deserve any time and consideration and will definitely not help in making a TPU. But you need to think a few steps further then what is in front of you.

The other guy in the 6TPU video is your regular Mr. You or Me. SM put the 6TPU in his hands and the guy gave his quick description of what the hell was in his hands. Then SM took it back and said Gyro Shmyro.

Funny the guy never said "Wow it's hot, or, wow it's cold, or WOW IT'S GYRATING". If it was hot that would be the first thing anyone would say, but only if it was hot. SO IT WAS NOT HOT at the time the guy had it in his hands. Hey that's a good clue. But it was not cold either and it did not have any real gyrating effect otherwise the guy would have said "Wow, feels like it's wobbling or spinning", or something like that.

Now what did this Mr. You or Me say?

"Buzzing, Vibration, Slight Noise". END OF STORY.
We should repeat the above line 100 times. That should get our brains reprogrammed to search in the right direction.

SM surely did not want him to say this because he took the unit back and insisted as if to say "Hey you shmuck - it's vibration and slight gyroscopic effect - get it - nudge nudge". But what Mr. You and Me said means exactly what he said and the origin of such buzzing, vibration and slight noise can come from many of the stuff we have tried thus far. This sounds very close to what you expect from a magnet quenched reed contact. Also, under such use, based on my own experiments with reed switches and the Tesla Ozone Patent, such a reed contact would not last more then 20 minutes. Wow not last longer then 20 minutes. Now where did I hear that number before????????? This could infer that the heat issue needing further work is a decoy. What really needed some work was how to get rid of the reed contact or any other oscillating component that would be the one that takes the brunt of any such device. This is what needed fixing but obviously SM could never have said this to his potential investors. Solving a mysterious, unidentifiable heat problem would be the ideal thing to say needed fixing.

How much noise will an AC motor generator make to produce 1000 watts. So why can't the TPU make some noise also. Because SM was not showing a turning AC generator that one would expect noise from and no one would give such a noise a second thought. He was showing a still standing TPU and therefore any noise would give away tooooooooooo muuuuuch of the device functtttttttttttttttttion. Any sounds, clicking, tapping, wizzing, screeching and more, would all give away some of the TPU internal operation and SM would not tolerate this type of give away in order to protect his device from premature disclosure, that is to say, do all that is humanly possible to not divulge anything about the device before all the bucks are on the table.

That noise was no longer heard in the MTPU and LTPU because he has all that room below the black box (two layers of wood board) to embed, hence help to sound proof any noise making components below the center floor (where he could have also hidden his start-up batteries - lol). Hence most switching components will also create a "Buzzing, Vibration, Slight Noise". Take any toroidal transformer and pulse it

Now think about this. How in the LTPU can there be any vibrating in the outer core, to cause a drag effect on the base of the LTPU when guys were sliding the LTPU forwards and backwards? That core was made with a soft material that would have absorbed any such vibration or gyro effect. The only way you could expect the vibration to cause a movement resistance is if the vibration originated directly in the wooden base and by vibrating the wooden base, naturally a vibration would be felt in the outer core. What a great deception. Put your oscillator in the base, cause a vibration (which is perfectly normal) then pin it on a mysterious gyro effect of the coils. Then guys will be looking for gyro effects until cows can fly.

Put it this way..........

If you were SM and you made this TPU device that you are showing to a few Mr. BigGreens for some real serious cash, but you did not want them or their hired Mr. BigBrains to know how the thing was working, the last thing you would want is to have the device make noise. So there is a lot of cover up. In SMs thinking, if you made an apple, then you should disguise it as a walnut. As long as the taste is great, no one will know how to copy it and you are still in business. Guys will be working to make walnuts while your apple is safe and sound. What I am saying is SM gave us a load of bad info and some good info without him realizing it. SM was a master in OU device disguise so we have to be very vigilant and work the logic base.

So based on this, we should consider that all the videos shown with witnesses and investors should be considered as designed to be highly deceptive, overblown, over complicated and full of disinformation so as not to give away concrete direction. At the stage SM was at during that time, some good cash was coming in from investors, plus he had a requirement for more cash outlays to continue further development, HE HAD TO SHOW THESE GUYS SOME advancement, but everything was based on NOT LETTING ANYONE KNOW WHY AND HOW A TPU WORKED. So we have to consider his videos for the operational aspect and NOT even consider the visual of the device to be 100 true, but, to a high degree very deceptive.

Are the rings real? Are those disks in the OTPU real? Is the outer core of the LTPU real? This is the real work of peeling away the make-up to see the true device underneath.

Did anyone every make an audio spectrum analysis of the FTPU and OTPU videos? Are there any predominant frequencies that can be heard? Mostly background stuff that could not be humanly heard under his continuous talking. If there are any weird frequencies, maybe we can know the frequency and intervals to understand if such can be replicated with known components. That would be a good angle to attack this problem while others work out the actual tpu function end.

Anyways, that's the end of my gyro rant. Hope your heads are not spinning in a gryo motion otherwise I may consider patenting this post.

turbo

Quote from: wattsup on July 03, 2009, 08:58:53 AM

Did anyone every make an audio spectrum analysis of the FTPU and OTPU videos? Are there any predominant frequencies that can be heard? Mostly background stuff that could not be humanly heard under his continuous talking. If there are any weird frequencies, maybe we can know the frequency and intervals to understand if such can be replicated with known components.


Yes i did make some analysis  :)

In fact they are on the cover of the TPU compilation Vol.3 , but that one never made it to the internet....

Marco.


turbo

Here i found some more  :)

This is actually the start up sequence from the smalles one  :)

Marco.

Peterae

Hi
Has anyone ever tried making a Saturable Blocking Oscillator Monostable.
They are great  ;D
1 transistor and can produce pulses over 1000 volts, although i still have a long way yet to get to this.

Peter

wattsup

@marco

Thanks for these. They look similar to the ones made by @EM when discussing the high voltage lines. Can you explain how to read these. Is this just a full spectrum of one instance. I guess time is not factored in the graph since to do that you would have to choose only one frequency and look at it over the time of the video. Like let's say we took the 5340 frequency. Can we see this over time or see a full spectrum like just before he put the magnet to the FTPU or OTPU, then another after the magnet is on. Or before and after he pushes the on/off button on the OTPU. Maybe also before and after a load was put on the OTPU. Can you see this live or in real time.

@Peterae

Very interesting and looks very close to the TPU center toroid. Please let us know your results. I have found a patent on this and put the pdf file here:

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Inventors/P-G-Bartlett/