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Stanley Meyer and The Water Car Hoax

Started by Jason_85, September 16, 2008, 08:03:44 PM

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allcanadian

The reason most people think Stanley Meyers is a fraud is because they cannot concieve how he did what he did, It is not Mr.Meyers fault his critics are ignorant to the facts. I think it's time to shed some light on the subject ;D, I made this post in another forum a while ago.

QuoteHydroxy Cells:
Let's start with a simple experiment, take two 4" x 4" stainless steel plates and put them in a container of water. Connect some insulated wires to these plates then connect a 12 volt source battery to the two wires. You will see gas form on both plates and the moment the battery is disconnected the gas formation slowly stops. Most people would conclude that the gas formation is based on the current flow following Faraday's Laws concerning electrolysis but this is nothing more than an illusion. Let's do another simple experiment, connect the battery to the cell very quickly as before then quickly disconnect the battery and connect an LED or small light across the same hydroxy cell(make sure polarity is right for LED). You will find the LED will light for a second or more and this has no effect on the gas production. This is because the hydroxy cell acts like a battery or capacitor, the energy you put in is still there in the form of an electric field and can be recovered. Now think about the qualities of this reaction, current moved through the cell producing an electric field which produced the gasses but the cell does not act like a capacitor nor a battery as the charge on the cell quickly dissipates. The hydroxy cell acts just like an electrolytic capacitor with the polarity reversed---a leaky capacitor. It would seem obvious that the faster the cell was charged then discharged into a load (frequency) the more efficient the process would be because the current flow is nothing more than wasted energy leaking through the capacitance. The electric field produces the gas and the current maintains the electric field in a conventional cell but there is a better way. Charge the cell quickly producing an electric field then discharge the electric field into a load or storage device. I have built many devices utilizing this principal and it works perfectly well. Also if you start looking at various patents for this process you will see it is there but is usually hidden in the form of a resonant action. That is a cell is pulsed resonantly each discharge of the cell adding with the next input charge in series to increase the electric field exponentially.

To the critics----
You never thought of that did you? That is because like many others you judge without facts, you believe that if you cannot figure something out nobody can. I wish I had your confidence, I would imagine my life would be sheer bliss and I could stop doing all these silly pointless experiments and thinking for myself. LOL
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   @ac  He was using a pulsed series resonant circuit and a water capacitor as the c in the circuit.   Anybody who has seen Tesla's ozone machine will see an immediate similarity.  Tesla was after water purification.  SM was after hho gas.  Same shit different ions.  I'd love to see the price of a barrel of sludge after GE or Westinghouse comes out with an industrial hho synthesiser.  If I was a leader of an opec nation I'd be investing in this technology instead of bigger guns to drive off the wolves at the door.  Lots of sunshine in the deserts to power pumps to irrigate the whole mideast.
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wizardofmars

Quote from: HeairBear on October 10, 2008, 12:08:17 AM
Copied from another forum posted by drakk626...

35 FACTS ABOUT STANLEY MEYER:INVENTOR OF THE WATER FUEL CELL

What is the actual source for these 'facts'? One of them was clearly wrong (the 'confiscated' dune buggy is apparently on eBay) and most of the others sound like the worst sort of paranoid conspiracy theory.

Are you just like everyone else on this forum - spouting 'facts' you read in some other person's post?
It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. - Chinese proverb

wizardofmars

Quote from: allcanadian on October 10, 2008, 02:30:28 PM
The reason most people think Stanley Meyers is a fraud is because they cannot concieve how he did what he did, It is not Mr.Meyers fault his critics are ignorant to the facts.

No. The reason skeptics think Meyers is a fraud is because Meyers was prosecuted for fraud. He sold 'dealerships' in his technology without having a working model. That's Fraud 101. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_perpetual_motion_machines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer#Lawsuit

In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of energy and the military.[20] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered to repay the two investors their $25,000.[3]
It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. - Chinese proverb

allcanadian

QuoteHis "water fuel cell" was later examined by three witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis".
My statement still stands LOL
QuoteThe reason most people think Stanley Meyers is a fraud is because they cannot concieve how he did what he did, It is not Mr.Meyers fault his critics are ignorant to the facts.
Examined by three witnesses -- three half-wits with impecable credentials I imagine.
There is a simple truth here, if the consumption of goods and services ever subsides (oil and gas in this case) the economy will collapse. You can see this in many economies right now, the US consumers have stopped buying shit and no amount of government intervention will change there minds, only they can. What if tomorrow the news agencies announced free energy for all that anyone can build? Gas/oil,electrical utility and motor vehicle stocks tumble overnight---massive unemployment due to layoffs and bankrupcy---billions of dollars of loans are defaulted on ---- Trillions of dollars of capital assets are now worthless ect..... . People in general are like sheep, they see there buddy start running and they all follow suit without justification in most cases, no government in there right mind would sit back and let this happen.

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