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Why Zero Point Energy is called...?

Started by Magnethos, September 22, 2008, 06:34:21 AM

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nitinnun

there is nothing more constructive, than saying:

you can't!
because it is impossible!


finer words have never been spoken......................

Raui

If you're refering to the answer I gave to your question then explain to me where I have not sufficiently explained why materials cannot store or capture ZPE.

I stated that because ZPE is the lowest possible energy or field (if we are talking about a ZPF) it is therefore impossible to take it. Its like trying to take 1 from 0. Every material has its own ZPE density however this cannot be taken out. Think of it like when you have a big glass of water and after you've drunk all you can out of it theres still traces of water around the outside.

Hope that clears it up.

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe. - Nikola Tesla
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FreeEnergy

defining Zero Point Energy in numbers
-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9




Steven Dufresne

Quote from: Raui on September 23, 2008, 03:01:15 AM
If you're refering to the answer I gave to your question then explain to me where I have not sufficiently explained why materials cannot store or capture ZPE.

It's not clear to me. Assuming it is the lowest possible energy, why would that preclude someone from finding a way to accumulate it, resonate with it, or otherwise interact with it and make it do something. The Casimir effect is an example of just that. There must be something obvious to you about your statement that isn't to me.

Quote from: Raui on September 23, 2008, 03:01:15 AM
I stated that because ZPE is the lowest possible energy or field (if we are talking about a ZPF) it is therefore impossible to take it. Its like trying to take 1 from 0.

But it isn't 0. It's 0.00000000001 for example's sake. Accumulate enough of those and you get 1.

Quote from: Raui on September 23, 2008, 03:01:15 AM
Every material has its own ZPE density however this cannot be taken out. Think of it like when you have a big glass of water and after you've drunk all you can out of it theres still traces of water around the outside.

So? Sorry, I'm really just trying to understand your logic.
-Steve
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He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

Raui

Quote from: Steven Dufresne on September 23, 2008, 09:03:10 AM
It's not clear to me. Assuming it is the lowest possible energy, why would that preclude someone from finding a way to accumulate it, resonate with it, or otherwise interact with it and make it do something. The Casimir effect is an example of just that. There must be something obvious to you about your statement that isn't to me.

But it isn't 0. It's 0.00000000001 for example's sake. Accumulate enough of those and you get 1.

So? Sorry, I'm really just trying to understand your logic.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

I'm just going by what I have read. Sorry if I do not make much sense, it would probably be my age or ignorance to ZPE. I didn't think about the Casimir Effect which has now got me feeling rather dumb. I will do a little more reading on the matter.
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe. - Nikola Tesla
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