RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite

[zpfe]

This is a continuation of the thread at
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2586.0;topicseen

Dear Stephan,

You sound and write like a sincere guy. So, I’m going to be honest with you as well. I don’t run a sugar factory and hence I will not sugar coat it for you. The gloves are off!
I am no longer interested in documenting my fail attempts to verify other people’s claims. They should’ve provided scientific proof to their claims to begin with! It would be like me providing evidence that I am innocent! It doesn’t work that way. At least not as far as science is concerned.

This John Bedini is a scam artist. Tom Bearden is an old man who thinks the Chinese are out to get him with particle weapons!
Do a search â€Ã...“John Bedini scamâ€Ã, on Google and read through what others have to say about him.
All these people including Peter Lindeman and the rest of the so called â€Ã...“Free energyâ€Ã, researchers do this because there is money in it. They can make money giving useless mumbo-jumbo theories in free energy symposiums and lectures, video tape the lecture and sell the DVD on top of the fees they collect for giving the lectures. After all, they have 30+ years of experience and that counts for something, right?
While the rest of us report to work everyday and earn our paycheck the hard way (the honest way).
The signs are all there. This Radiant Energy is supposedly not registered in any conventional test equipment by their own admittance! But Bedini makes a showcase with his â€Ã...“h-Wavesâ€Ã, showings on the scope in the â€Ã...“energy from the vacuum seriesâ€Ã, part #2 and a lot more inconsistencies I won’t go into at this time pending the outcome of the law suite.

I’ve thought a lot in the past few days about this subject based on my original post on your site and the private emails I've gotten.
The more I think about it, the more convinced I become that these people are sharks feeding on the hopes and dreams of the gullible and/or the uneducated.

It breaks my heart to see and hear the enthusiasm in the voices of these young hopeful men when watching their videos on youtube. I know they mean well but will not succeed and they will end up with broken hearts and dashed dreams. Although I never posted on youtube, I can relate to them. I want you young men to know that I care for you. Don’t be discouraged and put off by these con artists. They don’t represent the scientific minds. Study and go to school if possible to be able to see through crackpots like Bedini and alike by demanding scientific proof and recognizing the difference between truth and pseudo scientific explanations.

If this was any other field, I would bite my tongue and leave it alone as I have watching other scam unfold, and let nature sort it out. But since it has to do with free energy and at this critical stage of humanity, with so many young lives at stake, I can not, and will not standby and see our young and fruitful minds be wasted and raped from the true pleasure of discovery.
You see, these con-men are doing more harm than visible on the surface.
When a young man becomes infatuated by a cult leader like Bedini and other scammers, he dives in and wants to please himself and his pears with his accomplishments. He will post patriotic article, videos, etc to prove his worthiness to the clan and the cult leaders.
When this is all based on a hoax and a scam, sooner or later, he will have to face the bitter fact that his trials are not getting him anywhere. If he is lucky, he will realize this before his short life expires.
Even then, the bad taste in his mouth will prevent him from pursuing real and genuine free energy research. He might become a bitter old man or a bum as years go by!
I could go on explaining what detrimental effects these sorts of scams would have on the human psyche but I won’t and leave that for the court room. I think you and your readers are intelligent enough people to read between the lines.

This will not stand with me. I have decided to take these scammers head on and face the consequences. I’ve contacted a few attorneys in California to see if they would be willing to take on a class action law suit against Bedini, Bearden and Lindemann and I await their responses. It’s a start.
I am preparing documents to file with the US attorney general and a few national consumer watchdogs to see if there would be any way to stop these people before it gets out of hand.
Stephen, as I said before, I think you are doing a great service to this branch of science with your site. However, if you decide to censor me, I will have no choice but to consider you as â€Ã...“scammer sympathiserâ€Ã, and add you to the list of the â€Ã...“free-thinkingâ€Ã, enemies. From your replies, I am sure this not to be the case. Worst case, I will post in other forums.

I am not some mentally ill looking for revenge. I bought all their DVD’s and books gathering evidence against them after their claims failed scrutiny and after I put in the work as directed and saw no results.
I purchased the renaissance charger RC-2A12 and reversed engineered it despite the fact that it was drowned in black potting epoxy to keep the prying eyes out. Thank God for my sand blaster!

There is NOTHING novel about this charger that you couldn’t buy on the Internet today that has not been available for over 30 years.

Stephan, here is what I need.
I need people who have experimented with devices of John Bedini, Tom Bearden and Peter Lindemann and have failed, to come forward and post their experiences. I may be able to get them compensation for their failed efforts even if they did not build units to the exact specifications.
@all: Please contact me using this public forum (to keep an open public record) if interested.
However, if you are one of these people’s cult members and want to protect your ideal leader, take this message to him.
â€Ã...“I am on to youâ€Ã,.
@cultmembers: Do what you must to discredit me and flame me all you want and I’ll do what I must to see your leaders convicted of fraud and hopefully behind bars where they belong.

Justice will be served one way or anotherâ€Ã,¦

[chadj2]

I built a Bedini motor and the motor did exactly as he said it would do. I got mechanical rotation while simuiltaneously charging another set of batteries on the inductive spike that ordinarily is wasted. I also tested the Tesla switch and that worked as stated on his website as well. I dont think lindemann really put out any plans except his educated guess on how the Ed Gray tube worked. I will admit I havent tried that one. I know bearden did not put out any plans he seems like more of a theory type of guy. I am curious what results other people had with experimentation with these ideas.

Chad

[Raui]

I didn't believe any of this stuff until I decided that the only way to disprove it was to build one. I built a bedini motor and it worked very well.

[chadj2]

Ditto. The Bedini opened my eyes to the possibility of free energy. I chocked all this stuff up to conspiracy theories before I tried building his motor.

Chad

[z.monkey]

Howdy Zpfe,

Hahahhhahahaaaahahaaa, class action suit against inventors, hahhahhahhaaahahahhaaaaaa.......
Son, you are barking up the wrong money tree.  Inventors are not wealthy.  If you want to make some money suing people you need to go after multinational corporations that have BILLIONS of dollars.  By the tone of you rant you are frustrated that your creative talents are not up to your imagination.  Many many people here have had at least a little success with the Bedini motor or other scenarios.  Zero point energy is going to power the future, that is obvious.  If you want to be part of it you should hone your constructive skills and spend your time studying electrical theory and not trying to sue people.  I am quite surprised that you haven't been banned here.  All of us fail when we first attempt something that has never been done.  You should not let your mediocre first attempt taint your attitude toward free energy in general.  Hahhhahhaaahahaha sue the inventors, hahhahhahhahhaaaahahhahaaa...........

Blessed Be...