RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite

[christo4_99]

i can prove the concept of free energy in a very limited description...you start with a constant(electrical potential,atmospheric pressure,charge deficit whatever you want to call it)then you "accelerate" something beyond the natural(universal) capability of the "environment" to react and then stop it suddenly...the natural occurrence of the "constant" restoring itself creates the "free energy".the pistol shrimp phenomena is an example of this...the acceleration of the water does not cause the reaction...it is the sudden snapping shut of the claw which triggers the implosion to restore ambient atmospheric pressure...this sudden stop is a universal principle of "free energy" because it is the environment which restores the "deficit" in the open loop...

[nightlife]

 I have yet to see a properly built magnetic pulse motor. A properly built pulse motor will create free energy and the Bedini designs only contain part of the correct answers.

Bedini showed us how to reclaim a lot of what is being lost but he did not show us how to utilize it in a way for us to get free energy.

He did not use both poles of the coils and that is a must because when we only use one, the other is being wasted. When both are used, twice the work is being performed and it is not using any more energy to do so.

The following is a video produced by jonnydavro and it proves what I have said.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1oXRhyulQ9c

His design is not exactly what I have had in mind but it does work and it would produce over unity if it was set up properly. The bedini SG is said to be 53% efficient, double that and you get 106% efficiency. Now use jonny's design which looks to use cd drive motors as generators and play with the timing and you will get even a higher efficiency rate.

We have not even scratched the surface of what Bedini has given us and to hear people say things like zpfe has is just wrong and very disrespectful.

zpfe,  properly utilize what Bedini has gave us and then come back and tell us what your findings are.

[zpfe]

@all

I feel Iââ,¬â,,¢m misunderstood once again! I donââ,¬â,,¢t know if I have to write in Turkish or Klingon in order to come through without misunderstanding. Sorry, I donââ,¬â,,¢t speak Klingon see http://www.kli.org/ for more detail.

@Abbarue:
If you read my post once again, you will notice that I said ââ,¬Å"Nothing beats experimentingââ,¬Â. This is not the point. The point I was trying to make, is that these people donââ,¬â,,¢t tell you ââ,¬Å"Do this and learnââ,¬Â. They say: ââ,¬Å"Do this and youââ,¬â,,¢ll discover free energyââ,¬Â.
Playing with semantics is something politicians are excellent in. Are we dealing with a politician here? Are you a politician?
Now here we go with the song and dance that the free energy doesnââ,¬â,,¢t happen in these machines. Itââ,¬â,,¢s in the method that the batteries are being charged! Up until recently, it was claimed that these machines exhibit excess energy.

I responded to that by asking ââ,¬Å"if the batteries are showing OU by being pulse charged, why the hell do we have to put up with a mechanical means ââ,¬ÂCall it what you want, energizer, mechanical oscillator, scalar wave machine, whateverââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â
What I am suggesting and accusing these people is that, they misinform others intentionally and should be held accountable for their lies and misinformation.

@Wilbylnebriated:
Iââ,¬â,,¢ll be happy to go along with the law suite if you agree to pay for it. You see, itââ,¬â,,¢s easy to stay out of the ring and shout ââ,¬Å"kick him in the ballsââ,¬Â.
Try to get in the ring and kick him in the balls yourself! Frankly I donââ,¬â,,¢t understand half of what youââ,¬â,,¢re saying at the end. You donââ,¬â,,¢t make sense!

@infringer & @Hartiberlin
I donââ,¬â,,¢t agree with you. Only successes need be documented so others can replicate it. Whatââ,¬â,,¢s the point of replicating a failure? Just another dead-end!

@nightlife:
Use both sides of the coil? What an ingenious idea! Why didnââ,¬â,,¢t I think of that obvious modification?
Oh wait. I did that in my second build. It doesnââ,¬â,,¢t work!
You are all naïve people that believe everything you read on the net. Some if not all, is made up ââ,¬Å"numbers out of a hatââ,¬Â.
56%! Who the hell conducted these tests? Where are the test results published so that they can be disputed?
Just because it seems probable, doesnââ,¬â,,¢t mean it is.

I think all of you are high on something. Why smoke a joint and/or get drunk and post nonsense rather than listen to a good album or do whatever stoned people normally do?

You all donââ,¬â,,¢t seem to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Thatââ,¬â,,¢s what charlatans like Bedini feed on.
Here is an email I was forwarded from one of these charlatans;


We are pleased to announce the Sixth DVD in the "Energy from the Vacuum"TM Science Series.

This one features John Bedini, and is entitled "Inside Radiant Energy - Dialogues with John Bedini."  In this film, John fields a whole host of questions about what his perception of Radiant Energy is, and then he demonstrates its capture and performance on the bench. 

Finally, in a candid give and take discussion, we get to see how John Bedini designs a circuit from scratch thinking about nothing but potentials.  This is a completely unique experience, and there are several "AH-HA" moments when realization of this new paradigm's foundations are revealed, coupled with admiration for John for his ability to truly "think outside the box" in an almost completely uncharted field.

In fact the existing crippled subset of electrical theory steers everyone well away from this whole arena, and John Bedini, standing on the shoulders of Tesla, has thankfully come up with a successful methodology for harnessing radiant energy that, with incredible generosity, he is sharing with all of us.

The DVD is available at http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc6/

Regards

Tony Craddock
Web Administrator
The Tom Bearden Website
www.cheniere.org


Well Mr. Tony Crackpot;

ââ,¬Å"AH-HA momentsââ,¬Â, please, give me a break. Why couldnââ,¬â,,¢t you include these ââ,¬Å"AH-HAââ,¬Â moments in the useless 3rd series?
ââ,¬Å"Standing on the shoulders of Teslaââ,¬Â? I donââ,¬â,,¢t think soââ,¬Â¦Jim Billy Bob Tony.
I admire Tesla for what he accomplished as a scientist (with a doctorate degree in electrical engineering) and have the most disrespect for magicians like Bedini. Donââ,¬â,,¢t use this revered scientist (Tesla) for your pathetic greed to sell more useless DVDs.

Canââ,¬â,,¢t you people see that youââ,¬â,,¢re being taken by these charlatans who want to drip-feed you nonsense and divorce you from your wallet at the same time?

ââ,¬Å"Buy this DVD and weââ,¬â,,¢ll reveille the secrets. Buy another book or DVD and weââ,¬â,,¢ll give even more secrets!ââ,¬Â
The oldest tricks in the scammerââ,¬â,,¢s cookbook.

I donââ,¬â,,¢t even get why Bedini or any of you consider him to be an inventor. What the hell did he invent that Adams, Muller, Ed gray, Sparky, and above all, Tesla didnââ,¬â,,¢t disclose way before him?
Robert Adams claimed in one of his emails to me, that Bedini and Muller were his students back in the 70ââ,¬â,,¢s. I donââ,¬â,,¢t have any reason to believe him, but I donââ,¬â,,¢t have any reason not to either.

Just because one has the money to pay the filing fees and attorney fees to file for, and obtain a patent doesnââ,¬â,,¢t mean the patent is functional or worth the paper itââ,¬â,,¢s written on.
These charlatans all seem to feed on the resentment you all apparently have towards the formal education process and the education establishment in general not to mention energy providers.

Just because you couldnââ,¬â,,¢t hack it through college for whatever the reason, doesnââ,¬â,,¢t give any of you the right to shit on the rest of us who had to wait tables to make enough money to get a post-secondary education and become competent.

I for one, will never pay a penny for what they have to say. Iââ,¬â,,¢ve seen their DVDs by downloading their video torrents and watched it for free. Itââ,¬â,,¢s all a bunch of crap designed to mesmerize the uneducated and the naïve.
This forum is not working for me. I get too worked up and frustrated with the lack of real science and proof of these extraordinary claims and the blind fanatics who defend their cult leaders like their life depended on it.

I am a scientist and much rather spend my time with my own kind than try to convince a bunch of uneducated fanatic cult members of the ââ,¬Å"whysââ,¬Â it canââ,¬â,,¢t work. I canââ,¬â,,¢t afford wasting my time like that.
Iââ,¬â,,¢m out of this forum.

Iââ,¬â,,¢ll give you a piece of advice. One you may freely reject.
Educate yourselves and donââ,¬â,,¢t believe in this mambo jumbo until scientific proof is provided by the claimer or you, if you are willing to publish your results in a scientific paper and ready yourself to defend it against sceptics. Thatââ,¬â,,¢s how it works today and thatââ,¬â,,¢s how it should work.

As the saying goes, ââ,¬Å"There are no heroes, only opportunists.ââ,¬Â

[WilbyInebriated]

@Wilbylnebriated:
Iââ,¬â,,¢ll be happy to go along with the law suite if you agree to pay for it. You see, itââ,¬â,,¢s easy to stay out of the ring and shout ââ,¬Å"kick him in the ballsââ,¬Â.
Try to get in the ring and kick him in the balls yourself! Frankly I donââ,¬â,,¢t understand half of what youââ,¬â,,¢re saying at the end. You donââ,¬â,,¢t make sense!

LMFAO... the lawsuit was your "brainchild", and now you want me to pay for it? are you mental?

"kick him in the balls"? you don't make sense. are you asking me to "jump in your ring" and help you metaphorically kick john bedini in the balls? or are you challenging me to a round of rochambeau?

which words did you have trouble understanding? showbiz guru? or thats just asinine?
as i said bedini is about as far from show-biz guru as one can get. let me clarify since that post secondary education seems to be failing you when it comes to critical thinking. selling a couple hundred dvd's on the fringes of the internet does not qualify one as a show-biz guru. john bedini has never to my knowledge been on any mainstream media programming, save mythbusters mentioning his name. why didn't they have john on the show showing them how it works? should have been easy to debunk him right then and there if what you say is true correct? on national television even and catering to a demographic of uneducated non post secondary school heathens... wouldn't that have been the most expedient in exposing this "charlatan"? mythbusters isn't even recorded live, so it's not like john could have whipped a self runner out and made idiots (not that they don't do a fine enough job on their own) out of them all.
you're a scientist you say, and scientific and all in your methods? and yet you won't provide your research data when asked, why is that? did you forget to write it down while you were smoking that doob? are you not willing to publish your results in a scientific paper and ready yourself to defend against skeptics?
keep crying about your post secondary education, you should feel like a dipshit for waiting on those tables to make the money to pay someone else to tell you what books to read. you could have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you just gone and found out what the curriculum was and read the books for yourself. come to think of it, you wouldn't have to make such pathetic rationalizations about your post secondary education then though would you?

as the saying goes, "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

[chadj2]

zpfe,

You call us uneducated cult members, and rebuke us for not trusting you and the establishment. But I would have to ask if this distrust is illogical? You establishment people tell me that the Iraq war needs to be done because we need to get the weapons of mass destruction. Then it was to help them get democracy, then it was to fight Al Qaeda. You esablishment people tell me that the september 11th twin towers just coincidently collapsed symetrically at almost free fall speed because jet fuel burned for a few hours. To make matters even more absurd you guys tell me that building 7 on that day collapsed because of some never before seen phenomenon having to do with some thermal expansion and that caused that building to collapse symetrically at almost freefall speed. You establishment people are now telling me that we Americans are going to all lose our jobs and go into a depression unless we pay off the banks for all of their bad investment decisions. I could go on further but I hope I have sufficiently expressed some of the reasons that I distrust establishment people like yourself from the get go. I may be somewhat uneducated with just an B.S. degree but I think I have a little bit of common sense. At some point I have to ask if I am being taken for a ride. I dont agree with absolutely everything that Bedini and Beardon say but I know they have given me ideas that have actually led to real designs.

Chad