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RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite

Started by zpfe, September 22, 2008, 03:57:24 PM

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powershot

This is to all, not to a specific person:

I've been reading about Bedini for some years.

I've seen many diagrams and electronic/electrical schematics
but there is one thing that I've not seen: Plans.

By plans I mean the same sort of documentation that I would
do in a high school or college class.  Specify exactly
everything.

What are the materials used?  Where obtained? Exact physical
dimensions?  Where is the blueprint?

That is what is needed and I'm not about to put any effort into
replication if I can't replicate without knowing how the
original experiment was constructed.

For example: Bedini's School Girl Motor.  He specifies wire
that is not AWG (American Wire Gauge) but appears to be European
ISO.  Why?  Did he use wire from Europe?  What are the dimensions
of the wheel?  The coil form?  The Inductor? Bunch of nails is
not sufficient.  What manufacturer?  What size?  Purchased when?
Did manufacturer change the alloy, ie, carbon content, trace
metals?

The above is the scientific method.  Think Fleischmann and Pons
debacle with the use of platinum electrodes that were used by
others to test F&P's cold fusion and had negative results.

Until then, I won't spend a penny nor a second of time trying
to reproduce phenomena claimed.

But, that's just me.

Still, I'll keep tabs.


gadgetmall

Quote from: powershot on January 23, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
This is to all, not to a specific person:

I've been reading about Bedini for some years.

I've seen many diagrams and electronic/electrical schematics
but there is one thing that I've not seen: Plans.

By plans I mean the same sort of documentation that I would
do in a high school or college class.  Specify exactly
everything.

What are the materials used?  Where obtained? Exact physical
dimensions?  Where is the blueprint?

That is what is needed and I'm not about to put any effort into
replication if I can't replicate without knowing how the
original experiment was constructed.

For example: Bedini's School Girl Motor.  He specifies wire
that is not AWG (American Wire Gauge) but appears to be European
ISO.  Why?  Did he use wire from Europe?  What are the dimensions
of the wheel?  The coil form?  The Inductor? Bunch of nails is
not sufficient.  What manufacturer?  What size?  Purchased when?
Did manufacturer change the alloy, ie, carbon content, trace
metals?

The above is the scientific method.  Think Fleischmann and Pons
debacle with the use of platinum electrodes that were used by
others to test F&P's cold fusion and had negative results.

Until then, I won't spend a penny nor a second of time trying
to reproduce phenomena claimed.

But, that's just me.

Still, I'll keep tabs.


Its been replicated as a self runner/ self Charger  and its cheap . a few dollars . Do a Search on the site Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source . Verified with measurements / Scope shots etc.. from several others .
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hoptoad

Quote from: wattsup on October 03, 2008, 06:02:01 PM
You want some proof of Overunity, look up Universons which is now being accepted by academia as an unknown energy source, which we call ether and which has been shown to be smaller then electrons.

Interesting you should mention "Universons", because the experiments carried out by Claude Poher required enormous amounts of electrical current to achieve his objective of creating a measurable, detectable stream of  "universons". This is in direct contrast to Bedini type experiments where currents are usually so miniscule, and voltage spikes so fleetingly short, that the margin for measurement error is very wide.

Cheers

2b

Quote from: chadj2 on September 22, 2008, 10:39:49 PM
Here is the crux of the experiment. We both know that physics says there is just electron and ionic transfers in flooded lead acid batteries. Basically a 1 for 1 exchange during charging. So in theory if you were to charge a 12 volt lead acid battery with 3 amps from a 14 volt source for 15 minutes you should have the same amount of joules in the battery as charging the same 12 volt battery from 120 volts and 3 amps for 15 minutes.  For example, I have used 36 volt batteries to charge 12 volt batteries and measured joules out of the 36 volt batteries and then load tested the 12 volt batteries under load. I did this charge discharge process for sometimes full afternoons to make sure it wasnt a false effect. I have no explanation as to why batteries seem to charge from watts rather than just amperage.

Chad

it only appears that way.  higher voltage gives the elctrons/current more "punch", and thus, disassociates the chemical bonds in a battery more effectively than a lower voltage with a higher current (with the same wattage).  a higher voltage is more effective at reversing the chemical process that takes place in a battery.  but at a certain point, it is just wasted power if the high voltage power isn't necessary to reverse the chemical bonds.  a lightening bolt behaves similarly.  it will do a lot of chemical disassociation with little current.  you might be able to get a little better recharging in a battery if it gets a few zaps of high voltage / low current, followed by low voltage / high current of the same power/wattage.

2b

all-in-all, Bedini (with 1st grade grammar and spelling) and Bearden (PhD psycho-babbler w/fraudulent degrees) make me sick.  and i wish someone would sue them because they are frauds of the highest order; without attorneys, to keep expenses low.  just to shut them the hell up.  they've been rambling BS for over a quarter century, and mucking up the waters so that nobody can see clearly.  if the reason for loving them is hating govt, better think again.  i can't think of a better govt psy-op than those hoaxers.