Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !

[storre]

The Carr's craft reminds me of a bedini monopole also. I'm currently building some bedini energerizers. The Carr craft seems to have a big capacitor in it's center that accumilates it's energy from the spinning inner disk (also a capacitor) and then sends that out in pulses to the C coils that are fixed to the oppositely spinning outer shell. The 6 spinning tilted double cones are wrapped with magnet wire like a tesla pancake coil to increase it's potential difference but I'm not sure where there 2 ends of that coil connect to. It would be easy enough to wrap the wire and solder it's ends to each end of the cone that could have a metal point so as to contact it's support. Then from the support that energy could be fed to the capacitor as well. Since it doesn't have any permanent magnets it seems just like a motor that just uses coils on both the stator and rotor to create the attraction repulsion. Pulsing these stator coils and rotor coils is the key to their efficiency I think. Seems a type of bedini circuit except instead of using transistors to create the timing, it uses the disk itself that is formed as a capacitor to create the pulsing exactly in step with the rotor.

[storre]

Thanks for that info on Bush storre.

Viktor Schauberger is the man when it comes to earth/nature related technology...I don't recall reading of any relation to size relative to speed in the things I read on his craft...did I miss a reference somewhere else ?

If Otis's craft creates its own magnetic field, as alien craft do, and are not subject to 'G' forces, then I can't see the earth's field being an issue.

But who knows, your math skills are far superior to mine...I think I was sick that day.

Regards...

My math skills are very weak but thanks!

I definitely read somewhere about Viktor saying that his implosion craft would reach a very high speed and then just shoot up in the air, out of site. I didn't understand it at the time but now with this info about  Carr's craft it came to the front of my mind and I thought could be from the same effect.

I'm thinking that if you are on a rotating body which creates a magnetic shield, then the only way to escape from the effect of that shield is to rotate either at the same rate or faster.

If you take the speed of the earth at 1 revolution per day and the diameter of the earth and reduce them by 2 then you arrive at very fast speeds for smaller objects. Do we have any examples of things spinning at these rates? I know I have a 10,000rpm HD which is fast for HD's and it's running 10 times slower than the earth would be if it was the same size. The earth at 9cm would be spinning at 93206 rpm!

It seems that to escape from the spinning action of the earth and the gravity created by that then we just have to spin or get into something that is spinning at the same rate or faster so that we slip free from it's oscillations.

So until we learn how to make a motor as efficient as the earth, we get stuck here until we learn how

I don't know what the calculation would be to see what the rate of spin of the earth would be as it progressivly got smaller so I did a spreadsheet (attached jpg) and just took the diameter of the earth and reduced by 50% as I doubled it's rate of spin. Then calculated that to revolutions per minute and second.

Does someone know how to make this into a formula so you can take any size and arrive at it's rpm or hz?

[DreamThinkBuild]

Is there any more information on the statement of "space cycle of electricity" or "joining cycles"?

"... Q: In other words, you might call this a self-contained power supply, right? How would this generator --- maybe I'm using the wrong word --- gather additional energy from outside?

OTC: This is due to its circular motion. Electrical forces are motions where they manifest. Now we have cycles in alternating current; AC gives you 60 cycles per second; we have discovered in our experiments that there is a space cycle related to electricity, and if we join the cycle we get energy from it. ..."

from site: http://www.projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html

[wizardofmars]

In January of 1961, Carr was convicted of "the crime of selling securities without registering the same" in Oklahoma, and fined $5,000, far less than the sums he had obtained from investors in the area. He was denied an appeal on March 1, 1961. Carr could not pay the fine, and served part of a 14-year jail term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_T._Carr

As for the story about George HW Bush being the adopted son of Nikola Tesla based on an unsubstantiated 'ebook' written by 'Orion'...give me a break!

Let's look at some of 'Orion's other claims shall we? (from Amazon.com's page for this 'book')

DR. JOSEF MENGELE IS THE ZODIAC KILLER, THE REAL BOSTON STRANGLER AND THE REAL 2001 ANTHRAX MAILER KILLER WHO ALL HAVE NEVER BEEN CAUGHT!

THE NAZIS MURDERED DR. NIKOLA TESLA IN 1943!

GEORGE H.W. BUSH WAS THE BADGEMAN ON THE GRASSY KNOLL!

SEE NEVER BEFORE PUBLISHED PHOTOS OF BARBARA BUSH AND SS NAZI GEORGE H. SCHERFF AKA: GEORGE H.W. BUSH WITH SS NAZIS: OTTO SKORZENY, JOSEF MENGELE, MARTIN BORMANN, REINHARDT GEHLEN AND MORE!

SEE THE ONLY PHOTO OF HITLER IN EXISTENCE AFTER HIS ALLEGED SUICIDE!

HITLER'S SS GESTAPO MERGED WITH THE AMERICAN OSS TO FORM THE CIA.

But don't trust me. Pay $25 and read the PDF for yourself.

[Shanti]

Could be interesting for you:

http://www.philosophyforum.com/forum/philosophy-forums/philosophers/ninteenth-century-philosophers/walter-russell/1842-walter-russell-otis-carr-tesla-schappeller.html

If you look at the diagrams of an allegedly Vril-Device, you will see, that's exactly the same as a Carr-device except the Carr-Device has some additional outer Utrons, which are used IMHO to rotate the thing on its own, while the Vril-devices needed a motor for this.

Here a Vril-diagram: