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EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill

Started by CLaNZeR, September 27, 2008, 01:37:40 PM

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nievesoliveras

Hi!

I will try to comunicate with juan in spanish.

Hola Juan!

Me gustaria que tu nos aydaras a poder hacer una replica de tu invencion. El problema es que la informacion que tenemos es inexacta. Serias tu tan amable de darnos una informacion mas clara?

Gracias por adelantado!

Jesus

Light

Thanks, nievesoliver.
Good question.
I’ve asked Juan almost the same, but got big automated answer about how good it is.
He said in it he would help to build it, but not one single question was answered.
Maybe you ask him what’s wrong we’re doing and what has to be changed, corrected, if he won’t show exact diagram his working model (how he can help saying nothing, but common words).

nievesoliveras

Hi!

@light
I will ask him here.

Hola Juan!

Podrias decirnos que es lo que estamos haciendo mal que no nos sale tu invento?
Que es lo que tenemos que cambiar para que el invento funcione?
Tu dices que nos vas ha ayudar pero no dices nada ni contestas nuestras preguntas.
Tu verdaderamente podrias ser el salvador de este planeta que esta siendo desabastecido de sus recursos naturales.
Por favor ayudanos con tus conocimientos.

Jesus

Jdo300

Hello All,

I would like to clear up some stuff once and for all. All the information we need to build the motor has been thoroughly explained by Juan over and over again. I recently posted a PDF file showing all of the essential dimensional relationships that need to be observed when constructing the unit. I have been in communication with Juan for quite some time now; the diagram that I posted was approved directly by him as accurate. Though the magnets I used in the diagram are not the same 20 mm dia x 5mm thick magnets that he used in the video, you can easily scale the model in the drawing to fit those magnet sizes. Here's the basic concepts:

1. The diameter of the ring needs to be the length of 5 magnet diameters. so if you have magnets that are 1 inch in diameter, the ring's inner diameter needs to be 5 inches.

2. He describes the magnets as being like pennies, so that means they should be thin! Not so thin that they break very easily but you can go with a proportional diameter to thickness ration of  4:1 or higher. The magnets I show in the diagram are his recommended magnets to start with to build an easy-to-tune model. His suggested magnet size is 2 inches in diameter and 0.196" (5 mm) thick. This gives a diameter to thickness ration of 10:1. So that will give you an idea of what size magnets to work with.

3. The ring should ideally have 30 magnets in it in accordance with the previously mentioned dimension relationships. If you can't fit 30 magnets in, then your magnets are probably too thick.

4. Each magnet needs to overlap half of the previous magnets face. I recently made a cheap mockup to show this principle using pennies:


Again, this is just to illustrate how the magnets should overlap each other, it's not anatomically correct or anything.

5. The magnets on the rotor arms are the critical part of the motor. They should be the same dimensions as the ring magnets and should have a starting angle of 45 degrees. Juan stated many times that tuning the motor to get it to run involves tweaking the angle of the rotor magnets to find the "cascade of magnetic repulsion" as he terms it.

6. Another important parameter for tuning is distance between the ring magnets and the rotor magnets. Juan suggested a starting distance of about 1.5 cm (for the model I showed in the PDF). But you want a pretty large distance to play with. Design the rotor arms so that you can easily adjust the length as well as the angle. These two parameters will allow you to tune your unit.

7. Starting out, Juan suggests that we make the motors out of Ceramic magnets. As several people mentioned earlier, the magnets in the video were just ordinary ceramic magnets taken from chess pieces. they are 20 mm dia x 5 mm thick. The magnets shown in my PDF should also be ceramic. Neo magnets can also be used later on but the ceramic magnets are easier to work with starting off.

8. There is NO shielding used in the motor in the video. I have discussed this question with Juan several times and he made it clear that the ring and the rotor only have magnets. The mentioning of shielding was just a translation error.

9. The ring used in the video was just a simple cardboard tape roll that was 0.75 inches tall. You don't need any fancy magnetic materials to construct the ring. The same goes for the rotor. Make it out of whatever you want as long as it is not ferromagnetic. We don't want the structural materials to interfere with the magnetic interactions.

Here is a link to the PDF that I attached to a previous post here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5660.0;attach=27008

Again, you don't need to use the exact dimensions of the magnets shown but if you follow the above guidelines, that will give you a good starting point to begin building and testing.

If anyone has any questions, just ask and I'll do my best to answer.

God Bless,
Jason O

nievesoliveras

Hi!

@jdo300
Thank you for the information. But I thought that because the message was in spanish, mr Juan was going to reply himself.

Jesus