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Faraday's Paradox experiment

Started by scotty1, September 27, 2008, 07:20:24 PM

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Airstriker

Quote from: lumen on September 27, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
Well, if we are to believe that the field actually rotates with a magnet rotating on it's axis, then we must consider the following condition.

In the rendering, there are two magnets rotating in opposite directions. As you can see, as the conductor cuts the field lines twice, they would however be rotating in opposite directions. This would induce a continuous DC flow through the conductor. Not only that, but the conductor could be looped many times increasing the voltage to a usable level and there would be no reaction between magnets or the conductor.

This would surly indicate that the field does not actually rotate with the magnet, but is instead free to always take the path of least work.

This will not work lumen and will prove nothing. The field on these two discs is always uniform and as can be seen on your second picture always the same number of field lines passes through the conductor. When you rotate the discs this number will not change so you will not get any voltage induced. All this proves is... if you don't have any disturbances in the magnetic field, the field lines will create a sort of shell (the earlier said apple). Each field line will "stick" to it's neighbour field line. So the external observer will not see any change if this shell (apple) rotates. However the field will indeed rotate with the mganet - we just cannot see it.

lumen

Quote from: Airstriker on October 06, 2010, 06:37:43 PM
This will not work lumen and will prove nothing. The field on these two discs is always uniform and as can be seen on your second picture always the same number of field lines passes through the conductor. When you rotate the discs this number will not change so you will not get any voltage induced. All this proves is... if you don't have any disturbances in the magnetic field, the field lines will create a sort of shell (the earlier said apple). Each field line will "stick" to it's neighbour field line. So the external observer will not see any change if this shell (apple) rotates. However the field will indeed rotate with the mganet - we just cannot see it.

Airstriker,
Of course it does not work. In both the conditions where one must consider the field stationary in space, and the condition of the field rotating with the magnet, it is possible to build a DC generator without a brush contact.
The problem is the field is not stationary in space and it does not rotate with the magnet.
The setup I have shown does prove the field cannot rotate with the magnet because the magnets coud be rotated in either direction to cause a current flow in a uniform direction through the conductor, but no current will flow. The same number of field lines is irrelevant because it is shown to work in the standard Faraday generator.

The fact is, the field lines in a uniform field generator, are free to move or stay stationary or any combination that requires them to do the least amount of work. They must be trapped between two conductors and forced to cross one or the other to induce a current flow through the conductors.
If the are not trapped, they simply rotate or stay stationary, whichever is required to cause no current flow.


Hypercom

Hi

Another AC version with conductive strip ...

Hypercom

Hi

Question: self induction may support rotation?

synchro1

I invented a new type of Homopolar over on the "One magnet no bearing Bedini thread". I squeezed a diametric neo inside a copper jacket, and generated voltage through the non magnetic conducting stainless  steel axle. The copper plug covered diametric neo on a Mag Lev axle with contacts on each sharpened end would deliver power. I believe the copper curves through the stationary portion of the field.