Faraday's Paradox experiment

[gravityblock]

Electrostatic Swing Energy Harvester, http://www.electrostatics.org/images/ESA2010_G3_Reznikov.pdf

In contrast with heteropolar electret, the homopolar electret contains real charges of only one sign and charge of opposite sign is induced in available electrodes. The value of these charges depends on the capacitance between the electret charge and corresponding electrode that works as an electrostatic “mirror”.

Replace the Al foil in Seth's e-motor, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ43FHAofJ8 , with a homopolar electret.  Is it possible a motor of this kind could run without an external power supply?

GB

[BobTEW]

 The main cause of Faraday's Paradox is the motor/rotor force of D orbital electon.  I woke up this morning with this idea of how to explain the problem; the Twelve Days Christmas! On the first day a rotor was displayed(a "clutch'' if you may). On the second day two motors comin' on each side of ring torus just hummin'.  Electrons exchanging in a lazy figure 8. Then on third day three quantum rings to hold all together. OK, OK, I'm working at it settle down.

[nix85]

To remind of scotty1's video. This seems to be a paradox but i think i have now explained it. For what is magnet but many small magnets forced side to side. Now, for a macroscopic analogy of this, say we have 20 small magnets glued close to each other in a block say 5cm wide and if we bring another such block in attraction above it and spin it, bottom one will lock with it and spin in sync. Well, this is how magnetic transmission works, nothing strange there.

But, as can be seen when individual magnets are much smaller as in case of permanent magnet domains, there is no locking. Seems strange, but reason is probably that flux finds it much easier to jump to another flux line in case of microscopic magnetic domains so no drag.

Hi all.
Here is my test on Faraday's Paradox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUY3snoWI8
It clearly shows that the field does not rotate with the ring magnet.
Cheers
Scotty

[onepower]

Here is my test on Faraday's Paradox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUY3snoWI8
It clearly shows that the field does not rotate with the ring magnet.
Cheers Scotty

I did the same experiment and countless others. I also invented a magnetic damper based on the fact a magnet will induce eddy currents in an aluminum plate when moved in every direction except a rotation. So the magnet/aluminum plate will dampen all vibrations on every axis but not hinder the rotation in any way.

Here's a clue, all the Primary Fields (Magnetic, Electric, Gravic) do not rotate with the supposed source. This phenomena isn't a paradox it's a fact most choose to ignore. You see it all but proves all fields are a property of the surrounding space and not the source we suppose produced them. The source changes something in the surrounding space and the effect moves with the source giving the illusion the field came from the source. Similar to how our shadow appears to follow us around everywhere we go.

Another clue, in many cases the Primary Fields cannot be shielded by other materials. The field appears to move through other materials as if they were not even there. This is because the field doesn't move through the material it exists in the space around it. Think of it this way, if we place a cork under water it still rises regardless of any supposed shielding placed on any side of it. The cork always rises because the buoyant force is an external pressure gradient which acts from every direction inward on the cork. It's not something acting outward but an external force acting from every direction inward.

This is probably why science has chosen to ignore the field rotation problem. It also explains why after 200 years nobody seems to have a clue what a field is. In effect, there chasing smoke and mirrors, there own shadow. The only question which remains is if this is intentional or just ignorance?.

AC

[nix85]

The 'explanation' for the paradox based on idea that "primary Fields (Magnetic, Electric, Gravic) do not rotate with the supposed source" is an old one, can be found in the comments below the video and probably in this thread too, i am perfectly aware of the claim. I used to think so too, but when one looks into it better, that is not the explanation.

Firstly, the idea of magnetic, electric, gravitic source is wrong. Charges/masses are NOT sources of the fields, they only APPEAR to be. Source is the unified omnipresent field itself.

Secondly, magnetic, electric, gravitic are not primary fields, these are low, secondary EFFECTS of the Universal Currents which cannot be directly observed or measured, yet fill all space and i spoke about all this many times, people just don't catch.

To quote from Etiodrhpa

"All materials known to man are of coarse texture, and the minds of men are not yet in a condition to comprehend finer exhibitions of force, or of motion modifications. Pure energy, in all its modifications, is absolutely unknown to man. What men call heat, gravitation, light, electricity, and magnetism are the grosser attributes attending alterations in an unknown, attenuated, highly developed force producer. They are results, not causes. The real force, an unreached energy, is now flooding all space, pervading all materials. Everywhere there exists an infinite sea of motion absolute. Since this primeval entity can not now affect matter, as matter is known to man, man's sense can only be influenced by secondary attributes of this energy. Unconscious of its all-pervading presence, however, man is working towards the power that will some day, upon the development of latent senses, open to him this new world. Then at last he will move without muscular exertion, or the use of heat as an agent of motion, and will, as I am now doing, bridle the motion of space. Wherever he may be situated, there will then be warmth to any degree that he wishes, for he will be able to temper the seasons, and mass motion illimitable, also, for this energy, I reiterate, is omnipresent."

"If a series of knife blades on pivot ends be set in a frame, and turned edgewise to a rapid current of water, the swiftly moving stream flows through this sieve of metallic edges about as easily as if there were no obstructions. Slowly turn the blades so as to present their oblique sides to the current, and an immediate pressure is apparent upon the frame that holds them; turn the blades so as to shut up the space, and they will be torn from their sockets, or the entire frame will be shattered into pieces. The ethereal current that generates the magnetic force passes through material bodies with inconceivable rapidity, and the molecules of a few substances only, present to it the least obstruction. Material molecules are edgewise in it, and meet no retardation in the subtle flood. This force is a disturbance of space energy that is rushing into the earth in one form, and out of it in another."

"Now we, (by we I mean those with whom I am connected) have learned to disturb the molecules in matter so as to turn them partly, or entirely, across the path of this magnetic current, and thus interrupt the motion of this ever-present energy. We can retard its velocity without, however, producing either magnetism (as is the case in a bar of steel), electricity, or heat, but motion instead, and thus a portion of this retarded energy springs into its new existence as motion of my boat. It is force changed into movement of matter, for the molecules of the boat, as a mass, must move onward as the force disappears as a current. Perhaps you can accept now that instead of light, heat, electricity, magnetism, and gravitation being really modifications of force they are disturbances."

"Disturbances of what?"

"Disturbances of motion."

"Motion of what?"

"Motion of itself, pure and simple."

"I can not comprehend, I can not conceive of motion pure and simple."

"I will explain at a future time so that you can comprehend more clearly. Other lessons must come first, but never will you see the end. Truth is infinite.""


As i have explained above and before here

https://overunity.com/19090/just-another-don-smith-thread/msg567307/#msg567307

permanent magnet is made of many small magnets forced together.

If these magnets are sufficiently large (or rather, flux lines wide-apart) there WILL be magnetic-locking, and two such magnet disks in attraction will spin each other.

However, when those magnets are tiny and very close packed as in case of magnetic domains, there is no drag, reason for this is almost certainly that flux lines find it much easier to link when distances between them are microscopic vs macroscopic.

Main point being, it is misleading to think that fluxlines between two attracting magnets are not affected by spinning of magnets. If that were the case, how come fluxlines ARE affected if we space them apart a little, how come then there is magnetic locking and drag. So instead of this idea of flux lines not spinning i think it's rather that as i said, when they are closely packed they merge easily without drag and when they are far apart they get significantly bent and have to "jump" relatively large distances which they don't want to do, they prefer to stay locked, and this causes drag.