Faraday's Paradox experiment

[gravityblock]

Being able to draw would save me from having to write a book in each of my replies.  I'm really surprise you take the time to read my long posts.  I also repeat myself too much, which is redundant and not good for the reader.  I will take your advice and work on these issues.


Thanks,

GB

[gravityblock]

Ok, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around the forces on the wire and the counter torque on the magnet as shown in your diagram.

In the conventional setups, the magnetic field of the magnet and disc are axial while the electric fields and EMF is radial.  When we extract the current between the axis and rim, then the EMF in the external circuit will be radial regardless to how the wire is running or the angle of those connections.  No problem here.

In your design, the magnetic field of the magnet and disc is axial and the electric field is radial, but the current is being extracted between the rims which makes the EMF of the external circuit axial (the axis of the left disc is negative and the axis of the right disc is positive).

The forces on the wire and the counter torques shown on the magnet in your diagram is treating each individual magnet as a separate entity with an EMF that is radial.  They are no longer two entities with an EMF that is radial, they are now a single entity with an EMF which is axial between the axis/axis or rim/rim.  I am sure you will disagree with this, but the outside circuit will have an EMF that is axial regardless of the angle of those connections or how the wire is running and this is the reason why both magnets or both sides should be treated as a single entity with an EMF that is axial in this respect.

The arrows showing the forces on the wire and the counter torque on the magnet should be pointing horizontally and not vertically.  They should be running parallel with the green arrows.  The forces will either want to push the magnets apart or pull the magnets together.  These forces are now negligible to the rotation of the system.

If you need a diagram, I am sure I can modify your image.  If my thinking isn't correct, then please help.


GB

[broli]

GB, if you would ask me what I would need to create a true back emfless motor I would say that I need a wire piece that has a permanent field around it as if a current is flowing threw it, I call it an open circuit current. Look at the below illustration. If something like that can be created even momentarily we would have a generator with constant torque regardless of rotational speed.

[Hugo Chavez]

GB, could you please please please at least draw this out on paper and upload it.  I've played around with this quite a bit in the past and your descriptions are nearly impossible to visualize.  I'd rather look at the worst drawing than try to figure out your posts again.  No offense intended.  a drawing will help out this process bigtime.  thank you.

[gravityblock]

Below is an illustration showing a disc and a magnet with an inverted field.  The magnet isn't drawn, but the disc should show how the magnet would be drawn.  The wires will rotate with the disc.  The wire at the top of the disc will make a connection to the axle of another disc/magnet with no inverted field which will remain stationary.  The wire at the bottom of the disc will make a connection to the rim of the other disc.

As current is extracted between the axis/rim of the stationary disc, the torque created by the wires will be canceled and the generator will maintain it's rotational speed.  Maybe you can play around with this idea and find the right polarities or configuration to make it work.  If both sides had an inverted field of opposite polarity, then it may provide a forward torque.