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Faraday's Paradox experiment

Started by scotty1, September 27, 2008, 07:20:24 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: KWP on September 15, 2010, 05:22:12 PM
No, the magnetic field DOES NOT rotate with the magnet when the magnet is rotated on it's B-axis!

Your experiment is flawed.  The magnets in your video are nickel-plated rare-earth magnets.  The magnets you have  are either magnetized across the diameter (as opposed to magnetized through the thickness) or, (as an alternative explanation) the rotating magnet causes a counter-EMF to be set up in the surrounding nickel plating, which causes a counter-current, which (in turn) effects the other magnet.  If you did this same experiment with magnets that are un-plated and non-conducting (like ceramic magnets), and those magnets are magnetized through the thickness (and not across the diameter) you would see no rotation in the other magnet.

I did the same experiment in my laboratory with uncoated ceramic disc magnets (that were magnetized through the thickness), and the magnet on the bottom DID NOT ROTATE when the top magnet was rotated.

This is the biggest insult I have ever received on this forum.  The north pole is on the tails side, and the south pole is on the heads side.  The magnets I have are axially magnetized and are not diametrically magnetized as you and wings supposed.  I am not that stupid.

In regards to the counter emf, I did a similar experiment with the same magnets, where the bottom magnet was attached to a rotor with bearings.  The top magnet was suspended by a string above the rotor magnet.  When I rotate the rotor magnet, the top magnet did not rotate.  This rules out the counter emf in the nickel coating and is proof that the magnetic field is firmly seated on the magnet and is not free-floating.  The field lines of the top magnet will disconnect before being able to overcome the mass of the rotor and bearing frictions due to it's field being twisted.  When both magnets are stationary, you can feel the tension in the field lines.  Rosemary has confirmed the tension in the field lines.  The magnetic field will rotate with the magnets when both magnets are able to freely rotate without much resistance in the form of weight, bearing frictions, etc.  The field lines are easily broken between two magnets when they're not rotating together at the same rpm.  When the magnets are rotated on their magnetic axis at different rpm's and since the fields are firmly seated on the magnet, then this will cause the field lines to twist.  After the field lines are twisted so much, they will disconnect because the field lines can't cross each other.


GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: Airstriker on September 15, 2010, 08:14:13 AM
Very interesting experiment GB. Can you try the same with one magnet and one iron piece? Will the iron piece also rotate with the magnet ?

I'll do this test.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

KWP

Quote from: gravityblock on September 15, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
This is the biggest insult I have ever received on this forum.

I was simply stating what I know to be a fact.  No insult was intended, but you have the right to feel insulted if you wish.

Your results vary from my results using non-coated, non-conductive ceramic magnets.  Perhaps we can get additional confirmation (one way or the other) from other researchers-- using both nickel coated rare-earth magnets, and non-coated, non-conductive ceramic magnets...

gravityblock

Quote from: KWP on September 15, 2010, 07:36:50 PM
I was simply stating what I know to be a fact.  No insult was intended, but you have the right to feel insulted if you wish.

Your results vary from my results using non-coated, non-conductive ceramic magnets.  Perhaps we can get additional confirmation (one way or the other) from other researchers-- using both nickel coated rare-earth magnets, and non-coated, non-conductive ceramic magnets...

I have already ruled out the counter emf in the nickel coating.  I'll redo that experiment and post the video.  I have said from the very beginning for all to replicate this experiment before finding fault in it.  For those interested, I used nylon fibers for the string.  This allows the magnets to freely rotate with the least amount of resistance from the tension of the fibers being twisted.  If the tension of your string is too great when being twisted, then you're not going to get the same results as I have.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.