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Atmospheric powerplant

Started by Aleksey, October 04, 2008, 10:06:36 PM

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Aleksey

Quote from: ChileanOne on October 05, 2008, 09:01:45 AM
Hello!

Nothing wrong with your idea, but also, few things new.  The solar towers and other convection harvesting devices exist both in theory and practice. The problem is cost/benefit. Your "Balloon" idea could make it cheaper, but what kind of material is so abundant, durable and cheap to build a working proof of concept?
Yes, also it has to be lightning-proof somehow. Difficult question.
Quote from: ChileanOne

Look at the prototipe built in Spain.
http://www.enviromission.com.au/project/project.htm

I think you see the differences from the solar towers:
1) Solar towers are now limited to 1 km. To move the heat through the greenhouse gases up out of the planet it is necessary to have the 10 km height. It is possible by making the tower lighter-then-air, but it will have the monstrous windage and so it will be difficult to keep it anchored.
2) Solar towers use only the half of the circle. The cooled air travels down without making the work.
3) Solar towers do not use evaporation-condensation circle. If they will use it then they will move the water vapour up ( they do this partially now, "unintentionally"). Water vapour is the main greenhouse gas. 1 km possibly OK, but spreading the water at the height of 10 km does not look wise in our situation. :-)

Aleksey

Quote from: christo4_99 on October 05, 2008, 09:38:38 AM
the heat has a tendency to reside in the co2,simply heating it and making it rise will not release the heat,with this device you would be essentially heating the upper atmosphere...there is something similar to this where they use caustic soda to absorb the co2
I hope the upper atmosphere will release the heat away from planet by infrared.

hammuraby

there is an russian project developped for use a geotemic whit atmosheric temperature, for make an continouse under control tornado ..
as a tornado in a can....and by belance from summer -HOT and winter -cold; this work for 365/365
somebody that read russian ??

brian334

Global warming is better than global cooling. Humidity in the air keeps the planet warm, this machine would remove large amounts of humidity from the atmosphere possibly causing a ice age.
Also there is at least 1 U.S. patent on a invention very similar to yours.

hammuraby

hi,@brian 33,
VERYintrestinging is that you (beetwin the files), say that is a soluction of global warming....
trust me.... I know that. " in the wine-cellas in US there is averything !!" ....

but, can you show what is the us patent that you are talking about ??

this device is use for have a electric power from the up-down curling air flow, like in a Tornadoes
this tornado make from the DELTA thermic between air, and underground geo-thermic ....
and the delta can be maintaining stable whit sun charge in summer...
THIS IS A CAN FOR THE HEART OF TONADOthe curling rising
out side the curling whit direction down;
this is not for take humidity from the atmospheric air.