Sabous Magnet Motor

[CLaNZeR]

Clanzer,
Sup bud interesting motor...

Hey Infringer

Will tell you what's up mate.

Any post I place these days just gets filled with shit that ends up talking about the laws of physics as we know it and if we all just went along those lines, then nobody would post any crazy ideas, because they are too worried about thinking out of the box and what people would think of them for doing do.

A few years ago it was not like this and the whole point of having forums discussing Overunity is because we are told that it does not exist and the point was too try prove it does, by luck or by playing and ignoring mainstream science. That is the whole point, a bit of fun and a bit of a laugh as such.

People post reasons why it will NOT work, like we are all idiots because we did not listen in science/physics Class while in school. The truth is we DID listen, but are still hoping something has been missed and may be discovered.

I can visit over one hundred mainstream forums to debunk Overunity ideas, but the idea of these Overunity Forums is too let us nutters talk about and try alternative ideas, while ignoring mainstream Physics as such.

So will let this calm down and then post some results when the mainstream guys have got bored.

This Sabous wheel is a Smot config and hence the Steel balls BTW.

Cheers

Sean.

[jeffc]

jeffc,  

That may be but then what they are thinking of would not be a perpetual motion motor.

"The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes on forever. However, the term more generally refers to any closed system that produces more energy than it consumes. Such a device or system would be in violation of the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy can never be created or destroyed. The most conventional type of perpetual motion machine is a mechanical system which (supposedly) sustains motion despite losing energy to friction and air resistance, or while avoiding losing energy to friction and air resistance. According to the law of conservation of energy, such a device cannot exist."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

A PMM operates in a closed system which would not require and or seek any outside energy source for its movement.

I never saw a claim that this was a perpetual motion motor. Only that it was a magnet motor.  I respect your thoughts here, but I don't think you can rely on a quote from Wikipedia to define a device that it says cannot exist.  Also, PMM can be "permanent magnet motor". 

No matter what the definition, most people viewing this site would like to see a system producing energy in a way that doesn't rely on the arcane concept of combustion of hydrocarbons.  If someone uses magnets to create a motor and it actually can light a bulb, then who cares what some definition on a web site says?

This is a shift of your original argument about acceleration which I can understand as a legitimate fundamental concept to discuss. 

Regards,
jeffc

[4Tesla]

Hey Infringer

Will tell you what's up mate.

Any post I place these days just gets filled with shit that ends up talking about the laws of physics as we know it and if we all just went along those lines, then nobody would post any crazy ideas, because they are too worried about thinking out of the box and what people would think of them for doing do.

A few years ago it was not like this and the whole point of having forums discussing Overunity is because we are told that it does not exist and the point was too try prove it does, by luck or by playing and ignoring mainstream science. That is the whole point, a bit of fun and a bit of a laugh as such.

People post reasons why it will NOT work, like we are all idiots because we did not listen in science/physics Class while in school. The truth is we DID listen, but are still hoping something has been missed and may be discovered.

I can visit over one hundred mainstream forums to debunk Overunity ideas, but the idea of these Overunity Forums is too let us nutters talk about and try alternative ideas, while ignoring mainstream Physics as such.

So will let this calm down and then post some results when the mainstream guys have got bored.

This Sabous wheel is a Smot config and hence the Steel balls BTW.

Cheers

Sean.

Sean, Thank you!  I am very impressed with your work!

I also am sick of people posting that these devices won't work (unless the person that started the thread asks for an opinion if this will work).  We all know that 99% of these devices don't work.. that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do research and give up!  If you think OU is impossible.. then why are you here???; go somewhere else!

Jason

[nightlife]

jeffc,

I never saw a claim that this was a perpetual motion motor. Only that it was a magnet motor.

Any motion that operates in a closed system is perpetual motion.

No matter what the definition, most people viewing this site would like to see a system producing energy in a way that doesn't rely on the arcane concept of combustion of hydrocarbons.

I agree and I too am one of those but it frustrates me to see so many wasting time without properly reasoning first. I look at the designs and or think about the concepts I take the time to reason with it and I post what my conclusions are. Some agree and some disagree and that is where the debates come about from but the more we debate, the more we learn provided we keep open minds when doing so. Some debates don't really affect me for a few days or in some cases, even longer. But as time goes by and the more I think about them, the more I realize that I am either right and or wrong and that is where true learning comes from and they are lessons that will stick with me for ever.

"If someone uses magnets to create a motor and it actually can light a bulb, then who cares what some definition on a web site says?"

I agree but we have yet to see this happen and therefore the definition fails to be corrected. Some think that because the earths rotation acts as a perpetual motion that we can create a perpetual motion but the fact is that even the earths rotation works off a controlled pulse that is created by the energy's that both the sun and earth create.


4Tesla,

I also am sick of people posting that these devices won't work (unless the person that started the thread asks for an opinion if this will work).

All designs and or concepts posted are at the mercy of being dissected and criticized. This is good to do and or have done because it helps us stay in touch with reality and it helps keep us on the right path. It also helps find flaws and inspire others to find a way to utilize what has been discussed.

We all know that 99% of these devices don't work.. that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do research and give up!  If you think OU is impossible.. then why are you here???; go somewhere else!

We are all here to try and find ways to produce what is costing us so that we do not have to rely on others to get what we want and or need. Producing over unity is impossible but finding ways to utilize the natural energy's that surround us isn't. Everything emits energy but the earth and the sun emits the most and we just have not found the best way to utilize them yet. Once we do if we ever do, people will think of it as over unity but the fact is that both the earth and the sun's energy is created and it can be destroyed and if it is not destroyed, it will still eventually fade away.

The design this thread was started about has left many unanswered questions and most comments here are based on what has been shown thus far. I would like to see more of it, not to discredit it as much as to see why it was thought to be able to work in the first place. Every new design I see and or read about, makes me think of new ways to utilize the energy's that we are trying to utilize. They actually inspire me to keep thinking of ways. I myself have posted several ideas that I thought would work but after much reasoning, I found them to be nothing more then a more efficient way to utilize energy that has already been created. I am now sticking to finding ways to utilize natural produced energy's as a way to produce a usable energy. Some may think the results would be over unity but the fact is that the energy's that would be used to create the energy is more vibrant then the energy created and therefore is not over unity. Over unity is the production of more then what is used to produce it.

I am honestly a very busy person and I am not here to argue and or upset anyone. I am here to help, get help and to learn just as I hope everyone is here for. If we didn't need the help and or the lessons, why would we be here?

[CLaNZeR]

I am all for people debating and giving their opinion, but when a thread gets started and gets taken off topic then it just ends up a mess and takes the focus away from the original idea.

A good example is the Roll on 20th thread with Archer Quinn, that just turned into a nightmare