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Tesla's Switch (Self/Radiant Charging Switching Batteries)

Started by sirmikey1, October 07, 2008, 10:50:26 PM

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sirmikey1

Quote from: nul-points on October 08, 2008, 01:42:24 AM- there is an overlap in the approaches: switching energy from one source to another, shuttling it back & forth thro' a load, one or more times, to increase efficiency

Sandy,
  What ran across my own mind was back emf, collapsing fields/charges. I was thinking that
that the loaded battery recoiling back to unloaded state may be the same thing, free energy,  that you can stick the recoil into an unloaded battery. Same as with back emf, you have to put the recoil into an unused battery, or the charge is lost, ghost.  Any feedback?
SM

nul-points

hi SM

yes, the recoil/flyback is real energy - take a look at these results i've just found on flyback - seems to contradict the 'text-book' position that flyback can never be OU
  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5708.msg129736#msg129736

i don't have any experience yet feeding energy back into batteries - i'm using caps at the moment because it's easy to measure energy in/out as voltage increase/decrease

my circuit is basically one quarter of the 'Tesla' Switch - and i only pass the current thro' the load twice so far - haven't progressed to looping back, which is what the Tesla Switch does (with several sources) - but i can definitely get OU results from just one branch using caps

so i'd agree - the recoil HAS to be used, somewhere, or it's a loss in the system - and my recent tests are showing that recoil/flyback is likely the source of any OU behaviour in circuits with pulsed coils

be interested to hear how you get on

all the best
sandy

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"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
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Thaelin

   Well guess here is good enough for now. Still have a hot transistor. :-\
That is with all in the off state. So I have to dig into it more. So that means
back to the relays for the time being. I just received the gear mount for
the motor.
   Since I will be only switching at a very slow rate, the relays will suffice
and can be driven from a small run battery along with the lights.

Sorry for the delay.

thaelin

sirmikey1

Hello,

Great to see that people are getting positive results with this.
Wow Sandy, thanks for the link, your measured results. 

I would imagine that 12 car batteries would get around 25-30
mile range, and so the electric car conversion crowd will likely
fall in love with this thing.   Bedini, Lindemann, Bearden, etc..
all say that the flyback/recoil cannot be put into the running
battery, or it just nulls/ghosts.

  Here's a patent for a 52KWH car/house battery. 
The battery fully charges in minutes as opposed to hours.
http://www.rexresearch.com/weir/weir.htm

Cheers,
SM

nul-points

hi guys

Thaelin
i've started using CircuitMaker to produce schematics - i capture the design using PaintShop & then save as a GIF file

i just tried that with Windows Paint and you can do the same thing:
- prepare the schematic in CM
- leave CM window open & active
- (on my computer) press 'Fn' & 'PrtSc' keys together to 'copy' to clipboard (might be Alt-PrtSc, or Ctrl-PrtSc for some)
- press Ctrl-V in Paint Window to paste into Paint
- SaveAs GIF file

hope this helps, would be good to see what schematic you're using


SM
yes, i've seen that about not re-charging battery while in use - HOWEVER - is there a difference between using your battery for an hour, disconnecting it, recharging it for an 9 hours, disconnecting it, repeat, etc, and using your battery for a millisecond, disconnecting it, recharging it for 9 milliseconds, disconnecting it, repeat, etc?

i don't know the answer to this - and maybe the answer is different across Lead-Acid, Ni-Cad, NiMH, etc

if you're using pulse-driven circuits then it's certainly possible to send current back into a battery in between delivering current out of a battery - the same battery - but i don't know how the battery feels about that !  :)

it's no problem to do this with capacitors (power supplies do it all the time)

the debate about Bedini circuits & Tesla Switch circuits recharging batteries seems to come down to two issues:
- skeptics seem to say that in order to fully recharge a battery (i presume they refer to LABs) using flyback pulses you'd need such large voltage spikes that you'll damage the battery - reducing the spike voltage is better physical treatment but won't give full charge

- Bedini & supporters seem to say that the flyback spikes operate in a non-standard way - "Volts * Amps don't apply" - the size/shape/frequency of the spikes cause a aetheric 'resonance' in the battery to make it act like a negative resistor and gain energy from the vacuum

as i say, i've only used capacitors so i can't comment on these two views


i suspect it's a lot easier to make & operate these circuits than it is to test if they're having the required effect on all the batteries


which is why i use capacitors   ;)

all the best
sandy

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra