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Overunity Machines Forum



HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.

Started by peterpierre, October 11, 2008, 05:01:21 PM

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What do you think about my current findings in regards to my interpretation of Stanley Meyers System?

I think you're right on track.
Should work but I have reservations. (please post explanation)
I think you're way off. (please post explanation)

peterpierre

Odd, hm ... I dunno bro, I guess ask the guy who created the board design aka. founder/webmaster? another possibility, you have either an old computer or just a way to small monitor or u just set it to a very low resolution, also possible. On average any computer today has 1280x800 or higher resolution so I think u would still be ok at 1024x768 but anything less than that (such as 800x600) I'm afraid u be out of luck ... also depends on your OS (at least partially)

peterpierre

Blown intake manifold, eh? Wow, how did u do that? LOL ... besides it's not anything to be spooked over, it's not like the engine or the car exploded, crap like that happens all the time to people who buy those ready to buy HHO Cells, which are nothing else but regular 12V electrolysis. I think I found a proper way of coating 'electrodes' it's a tad bit pricey to say the least but I built a mini cell with plates, so the plates are sandblasted and coated with PVC, assembled and then tested with a induction tester (not cheap at all) but basically it increases the voltage until it arches (on purpose) - then you know how high you can go with the cell voltage before all hell breaks loose. Secondly ... my personal opinion ... I think anything from 600 to 800V DC is perfectly sufficient to provoke water polarization, especially with such sml plate / pipe distances, as I had mentioned before - what do you want 20 kV for? planning on tasering somebody? :)

P.S. HV Diode - no problem, but it's not only that, you also need one that can take the hit once the capacitor discharges ... example I step charge it with 600V ... upon discharge those 600V turn into 600A ... u need a really fat heavy duty current diode in order to hold that blast, else you will be collecting ur 1N4007 from all over ur place lol (probably partially be picking it out of ur teeth lol)

peterpierre

LOL True, Well look, the thing with the VIOC does work ... the only reason why the other say it does not work is because they go by Meyers drawings, as I mentioned in my last post, Meyer switched places of the VIC and PWM, and trust me on this one when I tell you, the only way you get a proper HV DC pulse is if you first step up your voltage and afterwards invoke the pulses, it cannot work any other way - one good reason that supports my statement, the ferrite core of the toroidal transformer I am using to get up to 600 V DC, supports only and AC current with a 50Hz / 60 Hz Frequency so it brings 24V AC up to 400V AC after which 400V AC are rectified to ca. 570V DC ... the whole stepup process needs a proper carrier frequency to do it's job. Now ... what hapens if you pulse a toroid core which is provisioned to withstand only 50/60Hz with let's say ... 30,000 Hz? ... well ... you will break the damn transformer, you'd loose. So think about what I said it might just have merit ... maybe also because I tried it both ways and the one described herein by me - the latter does indeed work :)

peterpierre

Look, I will give you the make and A of the stepup toroid in the pic ... its being sold as a 400V to 2x12V 75VA Toroidal Power Transformer: Make: Nuvotem Model: SFB0075-400-12 ... supported AC Frequency 50 or 60Hz .... cost: around $80 (55 Euro) P.S. Manufacturer is 'TALEMA'

So, you feed 24V AC in to the 2 outer pins of the 12V end  (each of the two pins is marked with 12V) the center pin is marked 0 and should not be connected to anything) ... on the 400V end u get your 400V AC ... now you must rectify those into DC and you will get roughly 570V DC after rectifier.

Authors Note: Do not mistake AC Frequency with Square Pulse Frequency ... Pulsed DC not equal AC

peterpierre

Additional Note: Why the setup Stan Meyer has in his patent drawings can not work in the sequence displayed. In order to step up Voltage, it has to be AC, you cannot directly step up DC Voltage without prior converting it to AC. The cell is driven by a square pulsed DC (according to patent but nowhere confirmed) in which polarity does not change and AC is a Sinusoid curve in which polarity does change at the rate of the AC frequency. To combine those two very different kind of forms of electricity and run them successfully over a single toroidal transformer with any amount of success might prove incredibly difficult - I would say - impossible, unless you guys have found the holy grail which would allow you to bypass quite a few laws of electrophysics. So, does anyone here like to disagree with me? Now's the time :)

P.S. Although there is also the marginal possibility that the Stan Meyer prototype was all along a AC type water cell capacitor and that the circuit was never intended to be run with DC ... but either way ... we can try both ways and see what happens :)