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Hydrogen Peroxide Helicopter Intora Firebird

Started by khabe, October 21, 2008, 05:42:42 PM

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khabe

Yeah -  that is $0.74 USD by kilo or $0.33 USD by lb at 50%, if I concentrate it to 90% I will get .555555 of it or $0.59 USD by lb of 90% - that is $0.59 / lb USD for 90% h2o2!!
Its much cheaper than gas or oil in Europe  :o       How much energy gives 1 kg  (or 1 lb ) of  90% h2o2  - somebody knows ??? And what could be output temperature what ever it is - gases or steam  ??? Im depicting in the imagination an energy plant - steam turbine -> el.generator - gives electricity and heat for my house - powerhouse   ::)
If it works well then *the price of this distillation machine with the deionizing and purification process included is $15,800 USD. plus shipping to any part of the world* does not much matter for me,
At present I have choice to join with Gas (natural gas) line - it costs appr. $22K , included  200m of gas line for me :'(
Cost of natural Gas on the increase anyway >:(

regards,
khabe

amigo

This peroxide stuff will only work in some relaxed country (non-North American) where government is not overprotective over their citizens and does not consider every one of them a potential terrorist thus limiting availability of simple chemicals or controlling their storage and use.


khabe

Energy Storage using Aqueous Hydrogen Peroxide

Robert S. Disselkamp*

Institute for Interfacial Catalysis, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, Richland, Washington 99352

Received January 22, 2008

Revised March 21, 2008

Abstract:

As alternative energy sources, such as solar, geothermal, wind, and wave, become viable in the future and cost-competitive with and environmentally favorable to conventional carbon-based energy sources, it will be increasingly important to develop low-cost energy-storage systems. These energy-storage systems may be either carbon-based or non-carbon-based but must possess a high energy-storage density, high operating efficiency, low cost, and ease of use, such as operation from the extensive electrical grid that exists throughout developed countries. Here, we present a novel energy-storage concept employing aqueous hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). The electrochemical synthesis of H2O2 from aerated water using a solid superacid cathodic electrode is proposed on the basis of a prior literature study and serves as the mechanism of stored energy. The subsequent generation of H2 plus O2 (again via electrolysis on a cathodic superacid electrode) for use in a polymer electrolyte membrane (PEM) fuel cell is described and thus comprises energy release. For a 50 wt % aqueous H2O2 solution using a tungstated zirconia electrocatalyst with an energy-storage density of >0.49 MJ/kg solution and a full-cycle (synthesis to electrical energy output) operating efficiency of >35% has been estimated to be feasible based on prior literature work.

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/enfuem/2008/22/i04/abs/ef800050t.html

regards,
khabe

khabe

ScienceDaily (Dec. 15, 1999) â€" WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. â€" Researchers are developing a new type of environmentally friendly fuel cell that runs on aluminum and renewable resources and generates about 20 times more electricity per pound than car batteries.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/12/991215072333.htm

best,
khabe