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Terawatt Research

Started by keytronic88, October 27, 2008, 03:58:39 AM

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ChileanOne

I hear you infringer, the problem is that companies, unlike individuals, need to produce revenue, or gather funding, in order to be able to exist. Selling something requires to have a product. It may seem easy, but to launch a product requires, first of all, the technology to be fully understood, if you want to succeed and not be ruined by lawsuits after your product experiences failures after a few months of use under conditions that you can hardly predict.

I perfectly understand that a company may take 10 to 15 years to launch a new technology to market. I myself have a very modest technology for eliminating one single mineral from water, and I have still to get a decent product to start marketing it, after 5 years of constant struggle for funding and a pilot plant running.


Yucca

If anyone disagrees with my analysis below then please let me know, I would love for this to be OU:

After looking at all available info on this device it is now my belief that Terrawatt have just made an expensive looking mechanical oscillator with a high enough Q to show good resonances.

The "output" torque sensor is just measuring large torques within the system. This is just a mechanical version of an LC tank circuit. You will get the same result by scoping accross a low resistance shunt within an LC tank, you would see large AC power in there and you would only need to feed small AC power in to keep the internal oscillations going.

One could produce the same results with a pendulum, only a small energy input is needed to mantain the much larger energy flows (kinetic to potential) within the closed system. But try and extract the energy and the oscillations will be damped.

The experimental verification by TUV and UL only acknowledges that the torque sensors and RPM were reading what was published in the experimental results, however to call torque sensor (2) an output torque is wrong, that sensor is placed before the "Magnetic Oscillation Device". If torque sensor (2) was on the true output shaft, outside of the system, and beyond it was a mechanical load then I would be excited about this.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news. I may be wrong but then you would think the loop would be closed if it was OU, after all it doesn't look like the loop isn't closed because of lack of budget.

tao

I have to second Yucca's comments.

When all is analyzed, it appears to be a type of 'rude goldberg' mechanical oscillator.

I'd hope to be wrong, just as Yucca, but it seems that it is all Terawatt has.



Quote from: Yucca on October 28, 2008, 07:46:32 AM
If anyone disagrees with my analysis below then please let me know, I would love for this to be OU:

After looking at all available info on this device it is now my belief that Terrawatt have just made an expensive looking mechanical oscillator with a high enough Q to show good resonances.

The "output" torque sensor is just measuring large torques within the system. This is just a mechanical version of an LC tank circuit. You will get the same result by scoping accross a low resistance shunt within an LC tank, you would see large AC power in there and you would only need to feed small AC power in to keep the internal oscillations going.

One could produce the same results with a pendulum, only a small energy input is needed to mantain the much larger energy flows (kinetic to potential) within the closed system. But try and extract the energy and the oscillations will be damped.

The experimental verification by TUV and UL only acknowledges that the torque sensors and RPM were reading what was published in the experimental results, however to call torque sensor (2) an output torque is wrong, that sensor is placed before the "Magnetic Oscillation Device". If torque sensor (2) was on the true output shaft, outside of the system, and beyond it was a mechanical load then I would be excited about this.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news. I may be wrong but then you would think the loop would be closed if it was OU, after all it doesn't look like the loop isn't closed because of lack of budget.

hartiberlin

Quote from: Yucca on October 28, 2008, 07:46:32 AM
If anyone disagrees with my analysis below then please let me know, I would love for this to be OU:

After looking at all available info on this device it is now my belief that Terrawatt have just made an expensive looking mechanical oscillator with a high enough Q to show good resonances.

The "output" torque sensor is just measuring large torques within the system. This is just a mechanical version of an LC tank circuit. You will get the same result by scoping accross a low resistance shunt within an LC tank, you would see large AC power in there and you would only need to feed small AC power in to keep the internal oscillations going.

One could produce the same results with a pendulum, only a small energy input is needed to mantain the much larger energy flows (kinetic to potential) within the closed system. But try and extract the energy and the oscillations will be damped.

The experimental verification by TUV and UL only acknowledges that the torque sensors and RPM were reading what was published in the experimental results, however to call torque sensor (2) an output torque is wrong, that sensor is placed before the "Magnetic Oscillation Device". If torque sensor (2) was on the true output shaft, outside of the system, and beyond it was a mechanical load then I would be excited about this.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news. I may be wrong but then you would think the loop would be closed if it was OU, after all it doesn't look like the loop isn't closed because of lack of budget.


I think your analysis mightbe wrong,
cause we don´t see any input power decrease at the resonance of the output.

This always happens when there is is input into a high Q LC tank,
but here the input power stays constant...

Also it is not shown, how the output is exactly done, so
all analysis until now is very vague..

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zerotensor

Yeah I suspect that Yucca et. al. are right:  we're seeing some sort of resonance artifact....  On the other hand, if there *is* some overunity effect here i would guess that it might involve "chopping" of the magnetic field by the "magnetic oscillation device".  Could it be possible that the magnetic field couples to the earth- or interplanetary field by induced magnetic reconnection?   In any case, the old "black box" approach always leaves me feeling a bit suspicious-- How do these magical parts work?