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Truth about Obama

Started by pix, October 29, 2008, 10:45:54 AM

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allcanadian

@ResinRat2
QuoteThe rest of the clowns on here with their Obama rants and love of Socialism are ignoramuses. They wouldn't know what true freedom is and how the Constitution is supposed to work. I see that you do.
Maybe you should understand what Socialism IS before you make such statements----here is one definition
QuoteSocialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.[1]
QuoteEgalitarianism (derived from the French word égal, meaning equal) is a political doctrine that holds that all people should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social, and civil rights.[1] Generally it applies to being held equal under the law and society at large. In actual practice, one may be considered an egalitarian in most areas listed above, even if not subscribing to equality in every possible area of individual difference.
This is what we are seeing now--the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the few and there wealth and power will only grow through corruption. I did not say I am a socialist--I am not one, I meant that if a global socialism of sorts could ensure the wealthy and powerful could be controlled to level the playing field that is a good thing. Many capitalist and democratic countries like Canada have measures in place to ensure this massive concentration of wealth and power are less likely to happen ie...foreign ownership content policies to STOP U.S. companies from exploiting OUR resources like they have done in every third world country---these policies are a form of socialism or a moderate populist stance.
Now exactly what is your problem with the definitions provided above? Are you saying you are against the fact that all people should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social, and civil rights, or maybe your against the fact wealth and power should be distributed more evenly so large corporations cannot drive entire countries into slavery. The fact is the U.S. form of capitalism is really more like Stalin or Hitlers form of socialism---a dictatorship not by individuals or governments but corporations. Corporations dictate the economy, governments and pretty much everything else, this is a dictatorship by the few who are motivated by one thing----money. In your delusional system of democracy a company like Walmart could grow to produce a GNP higher than all of the North American Continent in which case who do you think would have the balls to oppose them? and who would hold them accountable?-----Nobody.
Be very careful what you wish for------you may just get it ;D
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christo4_99

since you like Ron Paul you may or may not agree with him when he calls the Iraq war "illegal,unprovoked and unjustified".i too have considered that Mr.Bush is not solely to blame,nor his administration but if you do not blame someone you must succumb to the reality that it is you,Mr.Citizen that is at war with Iraq.In the famous words of Mick Jagger ..."they shouted out who killed the Kennedys?...when after all it was you and me."Is this your reality?Do you claim personal responsibility for the cumulative actions of your country?The fact that we could not continue on the path that was set before us by the Bush administration should be enough for even the most ignorant of patriots to recognize the need for change.What you must realize for yourself is how to choose you leaders and not to accept the leadership that is handed to you.The election is over.if you are a bigot sorry for you.if you are black good for you.if you are an American citizen who believes that the people run the government and not vice versa good for you.if you are Barrack Obama woe to you because you have the hopes and dreams of an entire country and much of the world on your shoulders.

ResinRat2

@alcanadian,

Obviously you don't understand how the Constitution of the United States was designed to work. It has been taken over and corrupted by power hungry politicians. The document was designed to keep the power of the FEDERAL government under control, THAT'S ALL!!

The States, on the other hand, were free to have as much or as little control as they desired. This principle is no longer understood. Obviously not by YOU! So the individual States could have all the laws they wanted, but they would have to compete with each other. If you didn't like what kind of laws a State passed, you could move to another State. The essence of freedom. Don't go telling me about what is good or not good for people. As Americans we should have a choice by moving to States we feel meet our goals, desires, morales, etc. I hope this is getting through your thick skull.

The Federal Government has grown to overpower the States rights. After the War Between the States it became totalitarian and presses its will on all the States, whether they like it or not. The counter to freedom.

I've got a few other issues I will bring up soon. I am at work right now and am working late. Thankfully I still have a job with the rotten economy the Bush Administration left us with.
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Cap-Z-ro


Neither Canada or the US is "governed" by any elected body.

Its hard to watch as otherwise respectable members, of the belief that there is a difference between one political party or another, criticizing each others political leanings.

Please people...pay attention to the many insiders, and other credible sources who have exposed the identities and activities of  the wealthy sociopaths who keep the planet in a perpetual state of conflict...carried out by their group of political whores, who pose as world leaders.

It appears that for many, there is a mental adjustment to be made in order to recognize the sorry state of their collective wage slave existence...and to resist the process which conditions them to believe the illusion created by these megalomaniacs.


Bill...I don't think anybody thought you were disrespecting Canuks...and my previous post was tongue in cheek...my faux umbrage was necessary as a premise for the failed attempt at comedy...proving once again, comedy is dangerous bizness. :)

Regards...


christo4_99

it occurs to me that the policies of the U.S. Government has put it's citizens in jeopardy.we are to just accept that we are the target of terrorists.i just heard Rahm Emanual talking about three months basic training for U.S. citizens becuase we (the people) are targets of terrorism.well if we are targets then why are we targets?the middle east is basically a cluster F@#K of desert countries who sell us oil and use the money to try and kill us.Iraq was a sad attempt at using a limited military force to steal oil or gain control of it.Our allegience to Isreal is a direct opposition to all the other countries in that region,and we call them our kindred becuase?Is it because we believe like they do that they are superior to everone else?this country is still F@#ked even with a new super black man president.