half a volt from 1/16th of an inch.

[nitinnun]

the polymer i used, is elmers school glue.
together, the cell forms into this:

         H H H H H H
          I  I   I  I   I  I
    Fe-C-C-C-C-C-C-Cu
          I  I   I  I   I  I
         H H H H H H

this is the basic form of all/most polymers.
but most glues have materials in them, that eitehr disrupt the polymer chains between the metals.

or make the polymer have so little electrical resistance, that the 2 metals short each other out electrically.


all of those atoms are covalently bonded.
all of those atoms share their magnetic fields. making one giant magnetic field. because they are covalently bonded.


i think the copper generates excess clockwise spinning magnetism.
and the iron generates excess counter0clockwise spinning magnetism.

and when these 2 magnetisms exist in the same magnetic field, they charge up the magnetic field !

[nitinnun]

by the way.
i checked. and the layer of glue was thicker than both metals combined.

maybe next time, i will make a film of glue thinner than 1/32nd of an inch.
i will go the distance!

[Shanti]

my oldest rock hard cells are more than a year old. and still produce electricity.
polymer keeps its shape for a very, very long time. so i expect that they would work for decades.

Well the Zamboni-Pile batteries worked for more than 100 years! And if the intermediate medium between the metals slows the ion exchange process, it will still work even after a long long time shorting. The disadvantage of such a "bad ion coupling" is that you will only get small amounts of amperages.

it is not a battery. it is its very own power source.

Well this is just a statement of yours. Why should it not be a normal battery? For your setup is exactly the setup of a battery!

[resonanceman]

If you take 2 different metals, you will always get a voltage, this is how a battery works.

Shanti

Exactly

Only with most batterys  the chemecal reaction  is very short lived.

I made a glue cell  many months ago .
The glue is compleatly  dry .

with the glue dry the current  was  about half as much as when it was wet .

Shorting it out for  over a week  didn't  change  the reading much .
It did take a about a day to recover ...... 

gary

[professor]

it produces about half a volt, at 0.5 uA.


a thin layer of copper,
a thin layer of dry polymer,
and a thin layer of steel.
all 3 together equaling a little under 1/16th of an inch thick.

pressed together by a 7/16th of an inch wide space.


it works better than this, when the glue dries on the metal.
because that causes the polymer, to covalently bond to the metals.
so that the polymer and the metals share the same magnetic field, through the covalent bonds.


i have not tried stacking together multiple layers.
because i'm interested in building a bedini motor now.

building a more efficient model, than what i have seen others build so far.

Hi,
I could not find the File that I downloaded a while ago perhaps of the Keely net, but this was a similar experiment ,which produced much higher voltages and if shorted out it recovered. Not a Battery in its sense but much more like a capacitor.
There were two plates I think of aluminum and sandwiched between them was a polymer Lexan or acrylic sheet of a thickness to withstand 30000 Volts. Clamped together and with 30000 volt DC applied to either side it was stuck into an oven and heated  to kind of melt the polymer onto the alu.plates After that it was removed from the oven still with its voltage connected and cooled.
After cooling the voltage was removed resulting in a selfcharging Device of high voltage.
Always wanted to try that,but never got around to it, therefore unable to confirm, I can not claim that it works.
professor