Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of this Forum, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above
Thanks to ALL for your help!!


question about water pressure

Started by loop888, November 12, 2008, 07:32:20 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

loop888

hello fellows, i have a probably stupid question about water pressure.

considering this:

QuoteAll directions

The pressure is the same in all directions in a fluid at a given point. This is true because of the characteristic of liquids and gases to take the shape of their container.



it is possible that having a recipient with elastic walls of different areas, one wall pushed another in the oppsite direction?
i found kind of hard to explain my self with words so heres a draw:



fig 1 = the recipient, where the red lines are the elastic walls and the inner white is air.

fig 2 = under water pressure, and according to my question, the water pressure pushing on the bigger area elastic walls and so displacing the contained air, that push the smaller area elastic wall in the opposite direction.

im sorry if the question is too dumb but doubt is killing me.  ;D

nightlife

 If you pressurize a volume of water from any side and or all sides, the bottom will still have the most pressure due to gravity and you will see that because the air will always be on top regardless of the pressure applied.
One way to test that is to apply air pressure to the bottom of a pressurized volume of water that has pressure applied from the top. The air will still go to the top.

Another example would be to squeeze a 2 liter of pop and turn it upside down and watch were the air goes. The outward force on all walls are just magnified when pressure is applied regardless of which way pressure is applied.

loop888

hello, thank you for your answer, but! either i dont understand what you mean or i feel you quite didn't answer my question.

from this:
Quote from: nightlife on November 12, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
If you pressurize a volume of water from any side and or all sides, the bottom will still have the most pressure due to gravity ..
i think you maybe refer to this:


how ever im well aware of that and my question is not about that.

the recipient in my example is summerged lets say at the bottom of a tank filled with water, and under a lot of pressure from that water.

what i want to know if the pressure applied to the bigger area elastic walls would affect the smaller area elastic wall in the opposite direction, as my previously draw (fig 2) examples.

any one??

thank you!!

-------------
by the way, the direction air goes in my example dosnt count, because the recipient well could be pointing the the smaller area elastic wall to the left or down direction.
i know air likes to go up, but in this case air would be contained in a recipient that is being squezed by the water pressure.

i just want to know if the fact the elastic walls have different area makes a difference, as exampled in the draw (fig 2)

nightlife

 I did answer that for you by stating that any pressure applied will only intensify the outward pressure of the volume inside at all points. The example of the fluid coming out of the holes in the can still applies to a closed pressurized container no matter where the pressure is applied. The ratio of pressure stays the same at all points no matter were the pressure is applied.

rlortie

fig 2 = under water pressure, and according to my question, the water pressure pushing on the bigger area elastic walls and so displacing the contained air, that push the smaller area elastic wall in the opposite direction.

Correct!  the pressure applied is PSI pounds per square inch, The area effected is measured by square units. The sides of your container have more area than the top. therefore the sides will push inward and the top will expand outward.

PSI X area = total applied force. The master brake cylinder in your car has more area than the four wheel cylinders it activates. Before the advent of power and disk brakes this master cylinder was of a larger size.   

The buoyancy of a mass is effected by its density and depth or PSI of the surrounding water. A submarine takes on mass in the form of water to submerge, the amount of water taken in dictates the level the sub will maintain. The sub displaces less water when submerged than it does when afloat. If it is setting on the bottom then it is displaced by volume and not density of mass.