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Air - water electric generator

Started by Farid, November 14, 2008, 02:00:08 PM

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Can it work?

Yes
2 (11.1%)
No
12 (66.7%)
Maybe
4 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Farid

Pese Thank you again for share me the talk about the idea . i have seen the link that you type this link belong to AB Hammer and i have notice that he also make a copyright to him for this idea with Two designs with date of 10-11-2008. if you visit that link http://www.business-idea.com/ShowPosting.asp?ID=2290 you can read the date of buplishing which shows 11 May 2007 and thats the day that i buplish this idea through that link and one of his designs is a tipecal copy of my desgin eccept its drawen by hand.
Dear friends i am reading all the articals and i am learning . this idea maybe it will never work but i think if some one have the money to make it we will know for real if it can work or no. Its not easy to belive that pepole can have energy free but maybe they can.
Thanks again and best wishes

TinselKoala

From the Simanek link:
"This figure shows what happens as one piston goes over the top and the other one crosses over at the bottom. We assume that this wheel was turning counterclockwise. The next thing that will happen is that the top weight will cause its piston to decrease its volume, while the bottom one will cause its piston to increase its volume. In so doing, the bottom one forces water out its open end, and the top one takes water into its open end. This process causes a volume of water to move from the bottom to the top (schematically shown by the curved arrow). This requires work, as is always the case when mass is moved to a higher position against the force due to gravity. And guess, what? The work required to do this is exactly equal to the work done by the Buoyant forces (in the idealized case, with no dissipative processes to lose energy), just as we found in the detailed analysis."


Now, all you buoyancy motor experimenters: Just what is wrong with Simanek's analysis, and why doesn't it apply to your design???


TinselKoala

"you can read the date of buplishing which shows 11 May 2007 and thats the day that i buplish this idea through that link and one of his designs is a tipecal copy of my desgin eccept its drawen by hand."

Sounds like you are claiming priority for your design.
The following is from Martin Gardner's Scientific American column from 1972:

And then there's this patent:

And "sponge wheels" using essentially the same idea are know from drawings at least 200 years old.
Note if the wheel won't turn on its own using the methods in these drawings, there certainly won't be any power available to run an air compressor or a generator in your modified design.

Farid

TinselKoala Thanks share me the talk

Dear i dont see any conection here between the idea itself and pistons becouse this idea dont use pistons insaid there mechanical structure . can you exeplain to me more your thought pls.

Thanks

Farid

TinselKoala

I didnt see the last two pictures that you add becouse of the net connection . i have seen them and i am not here to fight about who own what . i have seen in the secound picture that the creater use balls insaid and offcourse it will be all balanced becouse of grafity and that will never work . the theered picture its the same of main and i didnt see that one before but its defrent from the idea that i post here. why? becouse he connected the jaz tanks with each other and that also make balance  so it will never make any energy or movement. the problem is how to bush air from up to down and i think that problem can be delt with useing new turbain technologies . forgive me all becouse of my bad english languge . its not my mother tung .

thanks TinselKoalaand pls comment again and again