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The Young Effect, my gift to the free energy movement!

Started by captainpecan, November 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM

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Koen1

@alan, according to that reasoning, Einsteins theory of relativity is
worthless because Aristotle already offered an "explanation" for gravity:
it is because the nature or the rock consists largely of the element Earth,
that the rock wants to move closer to the Earth.
It was in a great many school books for centuries.
Despite that, we have found Einsteins theory to be very usefull.

@Yucca: I see what you're saying, although I'm still a bit confused now...
So you're saying that two caps with 10V in each do not add up to 20V
when we connect them in parallel?
And you're saying that discharging 9V through a circuit and ending up
with a measurable and usable total of 10V does not qualify
as a voltage gain, because somehow 10V - 9V does not equal 1V ???
I mean, just looking at the volts here, it sure looks like a voltage gain of 1V
in that situation...

allcanadian

@Koen1
QuoteUsing a measurement device to do measurements? How absurd! Obviously we must not
measure it but calculate it, and then claim this is a measurement.
LOL, ----- brilliant ;D You hit the nail on the head perfectly, people claiming a calculation is a measurement is sheer delusion and insulting to anyone who has actually built circuits to prove the facts for themselves.
Regards
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Yucca

Quote from: allcanadian on November 19, 2008, 01:11:15 PM
@Koen1LOL, ----- brilliant ;D You hit the nail on the head perfectly, people claiming a calculation is a measurement is sheer delusion and insulting to anyone who has actually built circuits to prove the facts for themselves.
Regards
AC

AC,

I agree with you, seeing for oneself is always much better than just reading a book and assuming you then have the "knowledge".

BUT... the measuring device used to measure work in this case is not a very good measuring device. It responds well to short pulses and does not respond well to longer pulses, it's like using a tape measure that shrinks as you unwind it more.

If you look at the pulse motor in question it has coils that produce a field that repulses the rotor mags. Obviously it has a greater effect upon the mags when the mags are near to the coils. When the mags are further away from the coils then the force is less and in fact when the mags pass the halfway point between adjacent coils then the pulse will work against the rotation as the following coil will push the mag backwards, so if you just read off total rotation after impulse then shorter pulses will appear to be doing more relative work than longer pulses.

Yucca.

tinu

Quote from: AbbaRue on November 19, 2008, 08:56:53 AM
...
You only need half as much power to recharge the cap back to 18 volts.
Because 9 volts or more is still left in the capacitor after it has done work with the motor.

Wrong! Please revise and corect, as follows:
1. In (re)charging a cap you don't need a certain power but a certain energy.
2. You don't need half as much energy but you need 3 times more!
OK?

Cheers,
Tinu

alan

Quote from: Koen1 on November 19, 2008, 12:50:46 PM
@alan, according to that reasoning, Einsteins theory of relativity is
worthless because Aristotle already offered an "explanation" for gravity:
it is because the nature or the rock consists largely of the element Earth,
that the rock wants to move closer to the Earth.
It was in a great many school books for centuries.
Despite that, we have found Einsteins theory to be very usefull.

lol@that theory ;D estabilished, but discarded later on.
Maybe we will consider string theory as the same in the future, as nonsense. But both he and this theory are original.

But isn't it true that scientists build on each others findings and insights?
Einstein didn't build directly on Aristotle's, but on what was already estabilished, like on Newton's
and Maxwell's, and Maxwell on Faraday's and Ampere's etc. ofzo.
I meant to say "foolish to completely ignore estabilished physics, which has been proven very much", if it was incorrect,
then we wouldn't have come so far as we are now, the models have proven to be consistent, I guess.

@allcanadian
The tesla patent nr you posted, doesn't seem very special to me (though it does prove his genius),
the lights can be lit from a distance of a single electrode of the sec. coil, but it is, like he said
in his patent, inductively coupled, which manifests itself by the displacement current due to the voltage spikes, I think.

see: "the scalar value of displacement current"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current

But please correct me if I am wrong.